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Attributes | |
ACN | 100061 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lfi airport : orf |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 6 |
ASRS Report | 100061 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
For approach was on a northeast operation when I began working west/south feeder combined. Commuter X departed orf from runway 5 and was turned wbound by the departure controller, then handed off to me. X had a route of orf hcm at 70, so I coordinated with the north/east/feeder controller who was in the process of splitting the 2 positions. I verified that he had the pointout on X climbing to 70 as he was to be the east feeder controller and handed X off to the north controller level at 70. Departure controller 2 only owns sfc to 40 on the northeast operation and sfc to 50 west, so he would not be affected. At some point thereafter orf approach changed to a southwest operation, and the supervisor on duty says he made a blanket broadcast. However, I never heard him and therefore did not know. The departure 2 controller then had a flight of 4 fgt's departure lfi on runway 26 and turned them right to northeast, climbing to 11000'. Although there was course divergence sep as stated in the 710.65, the pilot of X saw the fgt's and commented something to the effect of, 'do you have any more of them coming off?' aircraft X at 7000' had not been pointed out to the departure 2 controller by me since we were on a northeast operation earlier, and I didn't know we had changed operations. At 70 X was then in his airspace on the southwest operation. The 4 fgt's were IFR, nebnd.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER ACFT X WAS ALLOWED TO FLY THROUGH ANOTHER TRACON POSITION AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORD OR RADAR HANDOFF. COMMUTER X SAW FLT OF 4 FGT ACFT. NOT SURE IF OPERATIONAL DEVIATION OR OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: FOR APCH WAS ON A NE OPERATION WHEN I BEGAN WORKING W/S FEEDER COMBINED. COMMUTER X DEPARTED ORF FROM RWY 5 AND WAS TURNED WBOUND BY THE DEP CTLR, THEN HANDED OFF TO ME. X HAD A ROUTE OF ORF HCM AT 70, SO I COORDINATED WITH THE N/E/FEEDER CTLR WHO WAS IN THE PROCESS OF SPLITTING THE 2 POSITIONS. I VERIFIED THAT HE HAD THE POINTOUT ON X CLBING TO 70 AS HE WAS TO BE THE EAST FEEDER CTLR AND HANDED X OFF TO THE N CTLR LEVEL AT 70. DEP CTLR 2 ONLY OWNS SFC TO 40 ON THE NE OPERATION AND SFC TO 50 W, SO HE WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED. AT SOME POINT THEREAFTER ORF APCH CHANGED TO A SW OPERATION, AND THE SUPVR ON DUTY SAYS HE MADE A BLANKET BROADCAST. HOWEVER, I NEVER HEARD HIM AND THEREFORE DID NOT KNOW. THE DEP 2 CTLR THEN HAD A FLT OF 4 FGT'S DEP LFI ON RWY 26 AND TURNED THEM RIGHT TO NE, CLBING TO 11000'. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS COURSE DIVERGENCE SEP AS STATED IN THE 710.65, THE PLT OF X SAW THE FGT'S AND COMMENTED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, 'DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE OF THEM COMING OFF?' ACFT X AT 7000' HAD NOT BEEN POINTED OUT TO THE DEP 2 CTLR BY ME SINCE WE WERE ON A NE OPERATION EARLIER, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD CHANGED OPERATIONS. AT 70 X WAS THEN IN HIS AIRSPACE ON THE SW OPERATION. THE 4 FGT'S WERE IFR, NEBND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.