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Attributes | |
ACN | 100194 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : esl airport : dca airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 105 |
ASRS Report | 100194 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This report is of a potential safety hazard. There are 2 stars into the ZDC area both called armel one arrival (aml.AML1). One is for dulles the other for national. West/O very careful observation to see in small letters under washington, dc on one washington national and the other dulles international it is very easy to pick up the STAR for the wrong airport and this be at wrong altitude as they differ for the 2 airports. There should not be stars for 2 different airports in the same area with the same name and designation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORT OF POTENTIAL HAZARD WITH STARS WITH THE SAME NAME BUT DIFFERENT ALTS INTO DCA AND IAD.
Narrative: THIS RPT IS OF A POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARD. THERE ARE 2 STARS INTO THE ZDC AREA BOTH CALLED ARMEL ONE ARR (AML.AML1). ONE IS FOR DULLES THE OTHER FOR NATIONAL. W/O VERY CAREFUL OBSERVATION TO SEE IN SMALL LETTERS UNDER WASHINGTON, DC ON ONE WASHINGTON NATIONAL AND THE OTHER DULLES INTERNATIONAL IT IS VERY EASY TO PICK UP THE STAR FOR THE WRONG ARPT AND THIS BE AT WRONG ALT AS THEY DIFFER FOR THE 2 ARPTS. THERE SHOULD NOT BE STARS FOR 2 DIFFERENT ARPTS IN THE SAME AREA WITH THE SAME NAME AND DESIGNATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.