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Attributes | |
ACN | 1008092 |
Time | |
Date | 201205 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZFW.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Fighting Falcon F16 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude |
Narrative:
An MD80 inbound to dfw on the JEN9 arrival [was] cleared direct isabl intersection to clear other traffic in high altitude and to give a short cut. [The MD80 was] cleared to cross isabl at 11;000 per letter of agreement. [There was also] a flight of 4/F16s proceeding direct to brownwood MOA. I called traffic to the MD80 at 25 miles. I called traffic again at 10 miles. I was not talking to the F16s until they were just a few miles apart. The MD80 said he was having a TCAS alert. I then saw the F16s climb above the MD80 and thought the traffic had cleared but I was unaware of the fourth F16 lagging about 12 miles behind and called this second traffic. The MD80 said he was climbing due to a TCAS alert. I only rogered the TCAS alerts. I coordinated with dfw approach about the last TCAS and told the controller in charge who reported to the amic. This type of incident as happened many times. Military aircraft will depart VFR and fly straight to the brownwood MOA head-on with dfw terminal arrivals. We need to come up with a procedure to get the military aircraft to the brownwood MOA without being head-on with all of the dfw terminal arrivals. Maybe the traffic can depart out over the mqp VORTAC which is the departure gate. The last aircraft so far from the first aircraft caused another problem. I thought maybe I should have turned the MD80 to the right but I was not talking to the F16s and did not know which way all 4 F16s were going. If we leave the dfw arrivals on the JEN9 arrival then the incident just happens further west. The next time I will request early communications from dfw approach and give a hard turn to the right on the inbound traffic to hopefully miss all of the F16s that are not joined up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZFW Controller reported military departures routinely climb VFR opposite direction to DFW arrivals creating conflict.
Narrative: An MD80 inbound to DFW on the JEN9 arrival [was] cleared direct ISABL Intersection to clear other traffic in high altitude and to give a short cut. [The MD80 was] cleared to cross ISABL at 11;000 per letter of agreement. [There was also] a flight of 4/F16s proceeding direct to Brownwood MOA. I called traffic to the MD80 at 25 miles. I called traffic again at 10 miles. I was not talking to the F16s until they were just a few miles apart. The MD80 said he was having a TCAS alert. I then saw the F16s climb above the MD80 and thought the traffic had cleared but I was unaware of the fourth F16 lagging about 12 miles behind and called this second traffic. The MD80 said he was climbing due to a TCAS alert. I only rogered the TCAS alerts. I coordinated with DFW Approach about the last TCAS and told the CIC who reported to the AMIC. This type of incident as happened many times. Military aircraft will depart VFR and fly straight to the Brownwood MOA head-on with DFW terminal arrivals. We need to come up with a procedure to get the military aircraft to the Brownwood MOA without being head-on with all of the DFW terminal arrivals. Maybe the traffic can depart out over the MQP VORTAC which is the departure gate. The last aircraft so far from the first aircraft caused another problem. I thought maybe I should have turned the MD80 to the right but I was not talking to the F16s and did not know which way all 4 F16s were going. If we leave the DFW arrivals on the JEN9 arrival then the incident just happens further west. The next time I will request early communications from DFW Approach and give a hard turn to the right on the inbound traffic to hopefully miss all of the F16s that are not joined up.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.