Enroute controller providing OJT described a confused communications event with military aircraft pa...

Attributes
ACN	1009843
Time
Date	201205
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	ZZZ.ARTCC
State Reference	US
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Stratolifter (C-135)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Cruise
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Eagle (F-15)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Cruise
Route In Use	Vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Enroute
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Person 2
Function	Enroute
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Developmental
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

A K135 cleared into refueling area; accepted radar from nvf on a group of F15. Asked the K135 to advise marsa with the F15s and advise F15s requested altitude for entry. The K135; replied; 'we will; uh we advise marsa and have the F15s at FL200. Then asked the K135 what heading he would like the F15s on; the K135 replied heading 230 after working out the F15s radio issues; the F15s was given clearance and switched to tanker frequency. When the F15s were 7 miles from the K135; the K135 advised marsa again. When questioned; the K135 replied that he had not previously advised marsa. Recommend standard phraseology for the tanker aircraft to advise marsa 7110.65 and 7610.4 only share knowledge that the aircraft will advise marsa; but no set phraseology.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Enroute Controller providing OJT described a confused communications event with military aircraft participating in refueling activities. The reporter noted that increased standardized of phraseology during these instances is necessary.

Narrative: A K135 cleared into refueling area; accepted RADAR from NVF on a group of F15. Asked the K135 to advise MARSA with the F15s and advise F15s requested altitude for entry. The K135; replied; 'We will; uh we advise MARSA and have the F15s at FL200. Then asked the K135 what heading he would like the F15s on; the K135 replied heading 230 after working out the F15s radio issues; the F15s was given clearance and switched to tanker frequency. When the F15s were 7 miles from the K135; the K135 advised MARSA again. When questioned; the K135 replied that he had not previously advised MARSA. Recommend standard phraseology for the tanker aircraft to advise MARSA 7110.65 and 7610.4 only share knowledge that the aircraft will advise MARSA; but no set phraseology.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Enroute controller providing OJT described a confused communications event with military aircraft participating in refueling activities. The reporter noted that increased standardized of phraseology during these instances is necessary.