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Attributes | |
ACN | 1037403 |
Time | |
Date | 201209 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DCA.Airport |
State Reference | DC |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR TRUPS ONE |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 25000 Flight Crew Type 250 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
[We were] conducting the trups one arrival. ATC had taken us off of and back on the arrival a few times for spacing. We were then cleared direct trups intersection and resume the arrival. After passing trups intersection we continued the descent to cross frdmm at 8;000 ft. As we were passing 10;400 ft controller intervened and advised that we had not been given a new altitude and then cleared us to 9;000 ft. No conflict was noted by the flight crew or indicated by the controller. I suggest when giving a clearance to resume an RNAV STAR that the controller verbalize either a maintain altitude or give the clearance to descend via the arrival to avoid any miscommunication.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After they were vectored off the TRUPS RNAV STAR to DCA for spacing the flight crew of a B737-800 assumed that a clearance 'direct to TRUPS; resume the STAR' included the clearance to resume descent on the arrival. ATC disagreed; believing they should have maintained their last assigned altitude independent of the STAR restrictions.
Narrative: [We were] conducting the TRUPS ONE arrival. ATC had taken us off of and back on the arrival a few times for spacing. We were then cleared direct TRUPS Intersection and resume the arrival. After passing TRUPS Intersection we continued the descent to cross FRDMM at 8;000 FT. As we were passing 10;400 FT Controller intervened and advised that we had not been given a new altitude and then cleared us to 9;000 FT. No conflict was noted by the flight crew or indicated by the Controller. I suggest when giving a clearance to resume an RNAV STAR that the Controller verbalize either a maintain altitude or give the clearance to descend via the arrival to avoid any miscommunication.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.