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Aircraft departed without determining the actual takeoff weight. It was later discovered that the actual weight was not within limits.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 104049 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198902 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 11000 |
| ASRS Report | 104049 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
As aircraft was pushing off gate taxi director gave us a hold while additional bags were loaded. We thought the bags were within allowable limit. At 15000' in climb when out/off times were called in, ramp control told us the additional weight was not within allowable limits of weights our departure papers showed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT DEPARTED WITHOUT DETERMINING THE ACTUAL TKOF WEIGHT. IT WAS LATER DISCOVERED THAT THE ACTUAL WEIGHT WAS NOT WITHIN LIMITS.
Narrative: AS ACFT WAS PUSHING OFF GATE TAXI DIRECTOR GAVE US A HOLD WHILE ADDITIONAL BAGS WERE LOADED. WE THOUGHT THE BAGS WERE WITHIN ALLOWABLE LIMIT. AT 15000' IN CLB WHEN OUT/OFF TIMES WERE CALLED IN, RAMP CTL TOLD US THE ADDITIONAL WT WAS NOT WITHIN ALLOWABLE LIMITS OF WTS OUR DEP PAPERS SHOWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.