Air carrier medium large transport hit REIL on a touch and go at jax during a training flight.

Attributes
ACN	104057
Time
Date	198902
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jax
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : jax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	landing : go around landing other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	104057
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 1
ASRS Report	103868
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted other
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was in passenger cabin during a touch and go landing at jax. The captain/new flight instrument had a first officer trnee in the right seat and a first officer trnee on the jump seat observing the training. After a normal feeling landing that may have been slightly long, I did not hear the engines spooling up as would be normal. The power came up late in the roll and we made a normal feeling rotation close to the departure end of runway 25. I discussed with the captain when to bring the power in during landing, and that I thought he waited too long to bring the power in. I asked if we may have hit anything on departure. He was confident we had not and he stated he rotated prior to the end of the runway. We completed 6 or 7 more normal touch and go's, made a full stop and taxied back for a takeoff. The 2 first officer's swapped seats. After a couple of touch and go's with the new first officer in the seat we were advised by the tower that some threshold lights were down on the departure end of 25. The captain again felt we had not hit any lights, the airplane was making normal lndgs, it taxied normally. I observed the gear intransit from the main gear viewing port in the cabin. It appeared normal. I could fully see only the inboard tires. Upon return to atl the #1 main tire showed impact damage but was not deflated.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG HIT REIL ON A TOUCH AND GO AT JAX DURING A TRAINING FLT.

Narrative: I WAS IN PAX CABIN DURING A TOUCH AND GO LNDG AT JAX. THE CAPT/NEW FLT INSTR HAD A F/O TRNEE IN THE RIGHT SEAT AND A F/O TRNEE ON THE JUMP SEAT OBSERVING THE TRNING. AFTER A NORMAL FEELING LNDG THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY LONG, I DID NOT HEAR THE ENGS SPOOLING UP AS WOULD BE NORMAL. THE PWR CAME UP LATE IN THE ROLL AND WE MADE A NORMAL FEELING ROTATION CLOSE TO THE DEP END OF RWY 25. I DISCUSSED WITH THE CAPT WHEN TO BRING THE PWR IN DURING LNDG, AND THAT I THOUGHT HE WAITED TOO LONG TO BRING THE PWR IN. I ASKED IF WE MAY HAVE HIT ANYTHING ON DEP. HE WAS CONFIDENT WE HAD NOT AND HE STATED HE ROTATED PRIOR TO THE END OF THE RWY. WE COMPLETED 6 OR 7 MORE NORMAL TOUCH AND GO'S, MADE A FULL STOP AND TAXIED BACK FOR A TKOF. THE 2 F/O'S SWAPPED SEATS. AFTER A COUPLE OF TOUCH AND GO'S WITH THE NEW F/O IN THE SEAT WE WERE ADVISED BY THE TWR THAT SOME THRESHOLD LIGHTS WERE DOWN ON THE DEP END OF 25. THE CAPT AGAIN FELT WE HAD NOT HIT ANY LIGHTS, THE AIRPLANE WAS MAKING NORMAL LNDGS, IT TAXIED NORMALLY. I OBSERVED THE GEAR INTRANSIT FROM THE MAIN GEAR VIEWING PORT IN THE CABIN. IT APPEARED NORMAL. I COULD FULLY SEE ONLY THE INBOARD TIRES. UPON RETURN TO ATL THE #1 MAIN TIRE SHOWED IMPACT DAMAGE BUT WAS NOT DEFLATED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.