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Attributes | |
ACN | 1042495 |
Time | |
Date | 201210 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SFO.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 220 Flight Crew Total 19400 Flight Crew Type 9400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance |
Narrative:
Shortly after takeoff we got an ACARS message that there were new weights to be used and again dispatch ACARS'ed us to say that the ramp loaded an extra 1;500 pounds of cargo and did not advise load control. Based on the old numbers we took off 1;500 pounds too heavy. The good news is that we elected to use runway 28L for safety (166K to weight) and it would have flown off on one engine. However; runway 1 left/right would not have worked and might have put us in the bay (1L/right had us bleeds off max and no extra margin). Our crews trust the company to give us the most accurate data. I have no idea how I could have been more vigilant other than weigh every bag myself. As an aside; we were to be dispatched ACARS inoperative (cross country; heavy weight and en route weather) and we had to fight to get it fixed. The fix took about ten minutes. If we didn't have the ACARS; we might have used the one's based on the skimpy data; not real time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Air Carrier aircraft departed SFO Runway 28R and was notified after takeoff that the weight and balance was 1;500 LBS light which meant a Runway 1 takeoff would have been dangerous at their high gross weight.
Narrative: Shortly after takeoff we got an ACARS message that there were new weights to be used and again Dispatch ACARS'ed us to say that the ramp loaded an extra 1;500 LBS of cargo and did not advise Load Control. Based on the old numbers we took off 1;500 LBS too heavy. The good news is that we elected to use Runway 28L for safety (166K to weight) and it would have flown off on one engine. However; Runway 1 L/R would not have worked and might have put us in the bay (1L/R had us bleeds off max and no extra margin). Our crews trust the Company to give us the most accurate data. I have no idea how I could have been more vigilant other than weigh every bag myself. As an aside; we were to be dispatched ACARS inoperative (cross country; heavy weight and en route weather) and we had to fight to get it fixed. The fix took about ten minutes. If we didn't have the ACARS; we might have used the one's based on the skimpy data; not real time.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.