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Attributes | |
ACN | 1042563 |
Time | |
Date | 201210 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PCT.TRACON |
State Reference | VA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | McDonnell Douglas Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | STAR RAVNN 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
I was pilot monitoring on the ravnn 3 arrival to bwi. We had been given a clearance to 'descend via' and had complied with all the restrictions to csn. The captain was having trouble making the restrictions; but did due to a 50 knot tailwind and ATC asking us to slow down in the descent. That being said; we made the restriction at [ott] at 9;000 ft. As we were about to cross; ATC told us to fly a 360 degree heading out of ravnn for the visual to 33L. As I looked down to check the location of ravnn; I did not notice the 6;000 ft crossing restriction on the STAR at ravnn. I noticed the traffic in front of us descending and could see the airport and as I questioned the captain why we were still so high; ATC asked us 'are you descending via the ravnn 3 arrival' I responded yes and at that time the captain noticed we never descended out of 9;000 ft after crossing [ott] for the 6;000 ft restriction at ravnn. In fact; we had never even put the 6;000 ft restriction in the altitude window. It was then that I saw the printed text on the far right side of the approach plate indicating we should have descended to cross ravnn at 6;000 ft. ATC instructed us to descend to 4;000 ft and after a few moments told us we were clear for the visual approach behind the air carrier flight we had been following. I am not sure why I did not catch the 6;000 ft restriction on the approach plate; but I did not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier flight crew reports not noticing the crossing restriction at RAVNN on the RAVNN 3 arrival to BWI and the MCP altitude was set to 9;000 FT when cleared to descend via. No descent is initiated after OTT even though the FMC had successfully loaded the arrival with all the crossing restrictions. High tailwinds and a speed reduction by ATC had required the full attention of the flying pilot to make the restrictions up stream of RAVNN.
Narrative: I was pilot monitoring on the RAVNN 3 arrival to BWI. We had been given a clearance to 'Descend VIA' and had complied with all the restrictions to CSN. The Captain was having trouble making the restrictions; but did due to a 50 knot tailwind and ATC asking us to slow down in the descent. That being said; we made the restriction at [OTT] at 9;000 FT. As we were about to cross; ATC told us to fly a 360 degree heading out of RAVNN for the visual to 33L. As I looked down to check the location of RAVNN; I did not notice the 6;000 FT crossing restriction on the STAR at RAVNN. I noticed the traffic in front of us descending and could see the airport and as I questioned the Captain why we were still so high; ATC asked us 'are you descending VIA the RAVNN 3 arrival' I responded yes and at that time the Captain noticed we never descended out of 9;000 FT after crossing [OTT] for the 6;000 FT restriction at RAVNN. In fact; we had never even put the 6;000 FT restriction in the altitude window. It was then that I saw the printed text on the far right side of the approach plate indicating we should have descended to cross RAVNN at 6;000 FT. ATC instructed us to descend to 4;000 FT and after a few moments told us we were clear for the visual approach behind the Air Carrier flight we had been following. I am not sure why I did not catch the 6;000 FT restriction on the approach plate; but I did not.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.