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B757 captain and first officer describe their views of a landing in the 900 ft displaced threshold.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1043286 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201210 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Landing |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown Ground Excursion Runway |
Narrative:
Aircraft landed short; well into the displaced threshold. It is stated in the briefing pages this threshold is un-reinforced and we should not land in it. I thought the captain was going to flare and he did not. I told him we were not allowed to land in this portion of the runway. He was obviously angry at me for pointing this out. He had all kinds of excuses - like 'better short than long' 'relying on the radio altimeter call outs' - I pointed out they are unreliable due to terrain on approach end of runway. I said nothing more because I had to fly back with him and didn't want any more upset. We turned off at the 2nd exit from runway - most unusual. I am all ears. It is very difficult to know what is going on in the mind of the other pilot visa vi aiming point. If they just plunk the airplane down - it is too late for me to do much about it. If you can tell me anything I can do to do my job better - please let me know. It is very frustrating.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 Captain and First Officer describe their views of a landing in the 900 FT displaced threshold.
Narrative: Aircraft landed short; well into the displaced threshold. It is stated in the briefing pages this threshold is un-reinforced and we should not land in it. I thought the Captain was going to flare and he did not. I told him we were not allowed to land in this portion of the runway. He was obviously angry at me for pointing this out. He had all kinds of excuses - like 'better short than long' 'relying on the radio altimeter call outs' - I pointed out they are unreliable due to terrain on approach end of runway. I said nothing more because I had to fly back with him and didn't want any more upset. We turned off at the 2nd exit from runway - most unusual. I am all ears. It is very difficult to know what is going on in the mind of the other pilot visa vi aiming point. If they just plunk the airplane down - it is too late for me to do much about it. If you can tell me anything I can do to do my job better - please let me know. It is very frustrating.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.