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Attributes | |
ACN | 1043544 |
Time | |
Date | 201210 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DCA.Airport |
State Reference | DC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR TRUPS1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met |
Narrative:
We were assigned the trup RNAV STAR into dca in our MD80. We initiated the profile descent using GPS vdi in vs mode; however; the vdi guidance had us high on the first hard crossing altitude so I reverted to manual (human brain) vertical guidance to complete the arrival. My observation and concern for safety is that this type of procedure requires a total heads down operation and the pilot flying is almost completely removed from traffic watch; systems monitering etc. If anything were to happen during the intense VNAV operation of trying to make all the stupid crossing and speed restrictions; chances are great the anomalies would go unobserved.I suggest we have the guys who design procedures get in the lowest common denominator aircraft; test fly the procedure and evaluate the safety ramifications prior to publishing. The designers must ask ordinary users on both sides of the radar screen if changes are reasonable; necessary and safe.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After abandoning autoflight due to its inability to comply with the altitude constraints on the TRUPS RNAV STAR to DCA an MD-80 Captain expressed his belief the STAR (and other RNAV STARS of similar complexity) are incompatible with rudimentary RNAV systems such as those installed on his aircraft.
Narrative: We were assigned the TRUP RNAV STAR into DCA in our MD80. We initiated the profile descent using GPS VDI in VS mode; however; the VDI guidance had us high on the first hard crossing altitude so I reverted to manual (human brain) vertical guidance to complete the arrival. My observation and concern for safety is that this type of procedure requires a total heads down operation and the pilot flying is almost completely removed from traffic watch; systems monitering etc. If anything were to happen during the intense VNAV operation of trying to make all the stupid crossing and speed restrictions; chances are great the anomalies would go unobserved.I suggest we have the guys who design procedures get in the lowest common denominator aircraft; test fly the procedure and evaluate the safety ramifications prior to publishing. The designers must ask ordinary users on both sides of the radar screen if changes are reasonable; necessary and safe.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.