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Attributes | |
ACN | 1044471 |
Time | |
Date | 201210 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PCT.TRACON |
State Reference | VA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | SR22 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure Approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict |
Narrative:
I was the final controller running 15L/15R visual approaches. 5 miles is required for 15R for the tower due to runway and taxiway closures. Thirty degree intercept turns are required for parallel runway operations for visual approaches. Aircraft X was cleared for a visual approach to runway 15L and the B737 was cleared for the visual to 15R when they joined on the center lines with no belly up situation they were still out side of the 30 degree angle so tarp said it was a 'loss of separation.' this was not an unsafe operation for either aircraft; I believe the 7110.65 change needs to be re evaluated for runways more than 4;300 ft between parallels. It just increases controller and pilot workload unnecessarily.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PCT Controller described a TARP recorded separation event involving the mandated thirty degree turn on for visual approaches.
Narrative: I was the Final Controller running 15L/15R visual approaches. 5 miles is required for 15R for the Tower due to runway and taxiway closures. Thirty degree intercept turns are required for parallel runway operations for visual approaches. Aircraft X was cleared for a visual approach to Runway 15L and the B737 was cleared for the visual to 15R when they joined on the center lines with no belly up situation they were still out side of the 30 degree angle so TARP said it was a 'loss of separation.' This was not an unsafe operation for either aircraft; I believe the 7110.65 change needs to be re evaluated for runways more than 4;300 FT between parallels. It just increases Controller and pilot workload unnecessarily.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.