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Attributes | |
ACN | 1056798 |
Time | |
Date | 201212 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MHV.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Direct Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 140 Flight Crew Total 13000 Flight Crew Type 9000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
Approach cleared air carrier X to 9;000 ft. At seven mile ATC tells air carrier X report the visual approach. Air carrier X contacted CTAF unicom frequency. Transmitting our position from the field. Unicom replied with field conditions. Air carrier X then switched back to approach control requesting lower. ATC then cleared air carrier X to 7;000 ft. At five miles we keyed up the lights. I requested lower; approach control said unable due to protected air space. What protected airspace? I reported the field in sight expecting to hear cleared for the visual approach. Due to our close proximity and 7;000 ft altitude and mountains we continued to the field joining the glide path. I wanted to stay in my protected airspace as the approach control was busy with another aircraft. On our visual descent; and after calling the field; approach control asked our altitude. I replied we have the field descending on glide path. Approach control replied 'maintain your altitude!' we leveled around 4;800 ft. He again said he couldn't clear us below 7;000 ft. Air carrier X requested approach to tell us when clear of said airspace. Approach replied one mile. So we're now 4;800 ft one mile from the end of the runway. Air carrier X was in no position the do a stabilized approach so we executed a missed approach. Being so confused by approach's inability to communicate he needed us to cancel our IFR clearance in order for us to descend; we canceled our IFR clearance and did a circle to land to runway 30 at mhv.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier on a Visual Approach to MHV was restricted by ATC at an altitude that required a go around. The restriction to clear other unknown airspace.
Narrative: Approach cleared Air Carrier X to 9;000 FT. At seven mile ATC tells Air Carrier X report the visual approach. Air Carrier X contacted CTAF Unicom frequency. Transmitting our position from the field. Unicom replied with field conditions. Air Carrier X then switched back to Approach Control requesting lower. ATC then cleared Air Carrier X to 7;000 FT. At five miles we keyed up the lights. I requested lower; Approach Control said unable due to protected air space. What protected Airspace? I reported the field in sight expecting to hear cleared for the visual approach. Due to our close proximity and 7;000 FT altitude and mountains we continued to the field joining the glide path. I wanted to stay in my protected airspace as the Approach Control was busy with another aircraft. On our visual descent; and after calling the field; Approach Control asked our altitude. I replied we have the field descending on glide path. Approach Control replied 'maintain your altitude!' We leveled around 4;800 FT. He again said he couldn't clear us below 7;000 FT. Air Carrier X requested Approach to tell us when clear of said airspace. Approach replied one mile. So we're now 4;800 FT one mile from the end of the runway. Air Carrier X was in no position the do a stabilized approach so we executed a missed approach. Being so confused by Approach's inability to communicate he needed us to cancel our IFR clearance in order for us to descend; we canceled our IFR clearance and did a circle to land to Runway 30 at MHV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.