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Attributes | |
ACN | 108038 |
Time | |
Date | 198904 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ftz |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 39000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 108038 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ZME did not give frequency change to contact ZKC. We continued to monitor ZME until advised by company communication via ACARS to contact ZKC. Did so successfully. No problems. Suggest different sounding call signs by companies so frequency changes and ATC communication don't get confused. There were 3 other company flts, ours was 'def'. There also was a 'dgf' and another 'D?F'. I suspect that someone else rogered our frequency change. Center is just too blase about communication. Also suggest that we use individual numbers instead of group numbers. They just sound too much alike otherwise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 3 COMPANY FLTS WITH SIMILAR FLT NUMBERS. NEVER RECEIVED HANDOFF TO NEXT CENTER.
Narrative: ZME DID NOT GIVE FREQ CHANGE TO CONTACT ZKC. WE CONTINUED TO MONITOR ZME UNTIL ADVISED BY COMPANY COM VIA ACARS TO CONTACT ZKC. DID SO SUCCESSFULLY. NO PROBLEMS. SUGGEST DIFFERENT SOUNDING CALL SIGNS BY COMPANIES SO FREQ CHANGES AND ATC COM DON'T GET CONFUSED. THERE WERE 3 OTHER COMPANY FLTS, OURS WAS 'DEF'. THERE ALSO WAS A 'DGF' AND ANOTHER 'D?F'. I SUSPECT THAT SOMEONE ELSE ROGERED OUR FREQ CHANGE. CENTER IS JUST TOO BLASE ABOUT COM. ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE USE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS INSTEAD OF GROUP NUMBERS. THEY JUST SOUND TOO MUCH ALIKE OTHERWISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.