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Attributes | |
ACN | 1080648 |
Time | |
Date | 201304 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Mustang (C510) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID STAAV4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 60 Flight Crew Total 4300 Flight Crew Type 260 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 80 Flight Crew Total 1330 Flight Crew Type 160 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
We were cleared to take off from runway 25R and maintain visual separation from a departing flight. Per the STAAV4 departure; we climbed to 2;680 ft and then proceeded direct to leeln. Tower handed us off to departure just as we arrived at leeln; initiated our climb to 5;000 ft and our turn to tomis. Departure cleared us to 13;000 ft and asked if we were in the turn. We advised we were turning and they asked if we had the terrain in sight. We confirmed we did have the terrain in sight. A few seconds later departure advised us they had a low altitude alert; and again we confirmed we had the terrain in sight; were turning to the 331 degree track to tomis and climbing. Departure gave us a 040 heading; then 070 and cleared us to FL190. Before departure handed us to la center they advised us of a possible pilot deviation and gave us a number to call. We recommend the FAA review the STAAV4 departure which requires aircraft to remain at low altitude for 5-6 miles from the airport; headed toward higher terrain; then an abrupt 77 degree turn which points the aircraft at even higher terrain during the turn. We also recommend the tower at las hand off aircraft to departure much earlier so departure can clear them to a higher altitude sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C510 flight crew reports departing on the STAAV4 from LAS and crossing all of the waypoints at the depicted altitude. In the process ATC issues a low altitude alert and a phone number to call after landing.
Narrative: We were cleared to take off from Runway 25R and maintain visual separation from a departing flight. Per the STAAV4 departure; we climbed to 2;680 FT and then proceeded direct to LEELN. Tower handed us off to Departure just as we arrived at LEELN; initiated our climb to 5;000 FT and our turn to TOMIS. Departure cleared us to 13;000 FT and asked if we were in the turn. We advised we were turning and they asked if we had the terrain in sight. We confirmed we did have the terrain in sight. A few seconds later Departure advised us they had a low altitude alert; and again we confirmed we had the terrain in sight; were turning to the 331 degree track to TOMIS and climbing. Departure gave us a 040 heading; then 070 and cleared us to FL190. Before Departure handed us to LA Center they advised us of a possible pilot deviation and gave us a number to call. We recommend the FAA review the STAAV4 departure which requires aircraft to remain at low altitude for 5-6 miles from the airport; headed toward higher terrain; then an abrupt 77 degree turn which points the aircraft at even higher terrain during the turn. We also recommend the Tower at LAS hand off aircraft to Departure much earlier so Departure can clear them to a higher altitude sooner.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.