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Attributes | |
ACN | 109736 |
Time | |
Date | 198904 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna tower : sjc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 109736 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on departure from sna (orange county, ca) runway 19R on a musel 5 departure. Another light aircraft (blue and white, either large single engine or light twin) apparently had taken off 19L just prior to our departure and was on another tower frequency. No traffic was called to us at any time. During our climb I saw him ahead of us on a diverging southeast heading. Just after we had made our 'cutback power' reduction I noticed he had turned to a more southerly heading, paralleling our course. As we pulled even with him he made a sharp right turn towards us. We added full power and climbed as he made an evasive left turn and slid underneath and to the rear of us. We advised tower and they apologized saying he was on another frequency and said he had us in sight. If so he had a death wish! If aircraft are going to cross another active runway (on ground or in air) they should be in contact with the person controling that runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT. LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION. NMAC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON DEP FROM SNA (ORANGE COUNTY, CA) RWY 19R ON A MUSEL 5 DEP. ANOTHER LIGHT ACFT (BLUE AND WHITE, EITHER LARGE SINGLE ENGINE OR LIGHT TWIN) APPARENTLY HAD TAKEN OFF 19L JUST PRIOR TO OUR DEP AND WAS ON ANOTHER TWR FREQ. NO TFC WAS CALLED TO US AT ANY TIME. DURING OUR CLIMB I SAW HIM AHEAD OF US ON A DIVERGING SE HDG. JUST AFTER WE HAD MADE OUR 'CUTBACK POWER' REDUCTION I NOTICED HE HAD TURNED TO A MORE SOUTHERLY HDG, PARALLELING OUR COURSE. AS WE PULLED EVEN WITH HIM HE MADE A SHARP RIGHT TURN TOWARDS US. WE ADDED FULL POWER AND CLIMBED AS HE MADE AN EVASIVE LEFT TURN AND SLID UNDERNEATH AND TO THE REAR OF US. WE ADVISED TWR AND THEY APOLOGIZED SAYING HE WAS ON ANOTHER FREQ AND SAID HE HAD US IN SIGHT. IF SO HE HAD A DEATH WISH! IF ACFT ARE GOING TO CROSS ANOTHER ACTIVE RWY (ON GND OR IN AIR) THEY SHOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH THE PERSON CTLING THAT RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.