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Attributes | |
ACN | 109782 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : o22 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 645 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 109782 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 86 flight time type : 86 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student, a student pilot with approximately 90 hours, was on his long solo x-country toward his private certificate when I was contacted by sac FSS that he was overdue and had not closed his flight (20 mins late). At that time they said they were going to start a search (type not stated) in 20 mins. My student contacted me by phone 10 mins later, saying he was in columbia and had closed his flight plan. When he talked to sac to see if everything was ok, they told him he would find out soon. Exactly what that means I am not sure, but there must be a way to get students to close their flight plans (remembering to close them). If your readers have any suggestions on how (or a good method) to get students to close their flight plans, I would like to hear them. In the future, I will give them a pad of post-it notes, for a start.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT FORGOT TO CLOSE FLT PLAN AT COMPLETION OF SOLO CROSS COUNTRY.
Narrative: MY STUDENT, A STUDENT PLT WITH APPROX 90 HRS, WAS ON HIS LONG SOLO X-COUNTRY TOWARD HIS PVT CERTIFICATE WHEN I WAS CONTACTED BY SAC FSS THAT HE WAS OVERDUE AND HAD NOT CLOSED HIS FLT (20 MINS LATE). AT THAT TIME THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO START A SEARCH (TYPE NOT STATED) IN 20 MINS. MY STUDENT CONTACTED ME BY PHONE 10 MINS LATER, SAYING HE WAS IN COLUMBIA AND HAD CLOSED HIS FLT PLAN. WHEN HE TALKED TO SAC TO SEE IF EVERYTHING WAS OK, THEY TOLD HIM HE WOULD FIND OUT SOON. EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS I AM NOT SURE, BUT THERE MUST BE A WAY TO GET STUDENTS TO CLOSE THEIR FLT PLANS (REMEMBERING TO CLOSE THEM). IF YOUR READERS HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW (OR A GOOD METHOD) TO GET STUDENTS TO CLOSE THEIR FLT PLANS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEM. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL GIVE THEM A PAD OF POST-IT NOTES, FOR A START.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.