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C90 controller described an unsafe condition when coordination regarding a flight check aircraft was incomplete and uncertain.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1108471 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201308 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | C90.TRACON |
| State Reference | IL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach Departure |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
I was training a cpcit on the feeder position. The supervisor told me that we were going to talk to flcxx and find out what he wanted to do. I agreed but did not really understand why I would talk to an aircraft that was not in my airspace and was IFR. Flcxx rattled off numerous points that he wanted to fly. I was unfamiliar with most of the points; but passed the information to the supervisor. The supervisor told us to let flcxx do what he wanted. Keep in mind that during this I was training. This was the trainee's very first hour on the position. The supervisor coordinated something with other sectors but I'm not sure what so we called all other positions that would be impacted by flcxx's operation. I tried coordinating with the south departure position to ensure that they knew about and were going to miss flcxx. Flcxx wanted to go to a point that was in direct conflict with the southbound departures. The departure position responded that they were too busy and knew nothing of the flcxx operation. I immediately turned flcxx away from all departure traffic. I understand that supervisors want to accommodate everyone; but our airspace is extremely complex. We can not just hope for the best. They must provide some kind of leadership. They should coordinate first and only after all coordination is complete should they approve an operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C90 Controller described an unsafe condition when coordination regarding a flight check aircraft was incomplete and uncertain.
Narrative: I was training a CPCIT on the Feeder position. The Supervisor told me that we were going to talk to FLCXX and find out what he wanted to do. I agreed but did not really understand why I would talk to an aircraft that was not in my airspace and was IFR. FLCXX rattled off numerous points that he wanted to fly. I was unfamiliar with most of the points; but passed the information to the Supervisor. The Supervisor told us to let FLCXX do what he wanted. Keep in mind that during this I was training. This was the Trainee's very first hour on the position. The Supervisor coordinated something with other sectors but I'm not sure what so we called all other positions that would be impacted by FLCXX's operation. I tried coordinating with the South Departure position to ensure that they knew about and were going to miss FLCXX. FLCXX wanted to go to a point that was in direct conflict with the southbound departures. The Departure position responded that they were too busy and knew nothing of the FLCXX operation. I immediately turned FLCXX away from all departure traffic. I understand that supervisors want to accommodate everyone; but our airspace is extremely complex. We can not just hope for the best. They must provide some kind of leadership. They should coordinate first and only after all coordination is complete should they approve an operation.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.