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Attributes | |
ACN | 1112767 |
Time | |
Date | 201308 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER/LR (CRJ700) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Pneumatic Ducting |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
While in the emergency descent for depressurization; the captain was in the QRH; SOP etc and I was flying; on radios. We had a slow leak; so I took an easy descent down to 10;000 ft; but I had kept my forward speed at 280 KTS. Amid all the distraction of trying to be at least aware of what the captain was doing on his checklists and navigating from our original course and turning back to the departure airport; and programming the box and trying to answer too many distracting questions from ATC. We had one more caution message pop up for cabin alt. Since we were already at 10;000 ft; and this was now an unpressurized flight due to our original emergency for left bleed duct. This cabin alt message was completely normal and expected; but the captain suggested we could go to 9;000 ft and get rid of the message. Nobody wants to see the list of messages get longer; so this seemed like a good idea and I requested and started my descent while still holding 290 KTS. All I can add is that ATC may have even been hinting at our overspeed; but by frequently asking us to verify we are in 'emergency status.' I don't know why it took me so long to get the hint; but we must've gone more than 10-15 miles at that speed... More than enough for an obvious speeding ticket. If they weren't hinting to me; then in general it was a bit distracting. I think the emergency situation puts you outside the box to begin with; but I shouldn't have had any amount of hurry in my descent. I didn't hurry the descent rate; I made the suggestions to the captain for a very long shallow descent rate for the sake of two infants. So I wasn't in a 'hurry' to get down. It seems like in the middle of the hectic part...we made a knee jerk reaction to a message that was normal and we just wanted to get rid of it. In hind sight; I think we both agree we should've stayed at 10;000 ft until completely briefed; both ready for the entire arrival.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-700 flight crew reports unintentionally exceeding 250 KTS below 10;000 FT after an emergency descent.
Narrative: While in the emergency descent for depressurization; the Captain was in the QRH; SOP etc and I was flying; on radios. We had a slow leak; so I took an easy descent down to 10;000 FT; but I had kept my forward speed at 280 KTS. Amid all the distraction of trying to be at least aware of what the Captain was doing on his checklists and navigating from our original course and turning back to the departure airport; and programming the box and trying to answer too many distracting questions from ATC. We had one more caution message pop up for Cabin Alt. Since we were already at 10;000 FT; and this was now an unpressurized flight due to our original emergency for L BLEED DUCT. This Cabin Alt message was completely normal and expected; but the Captain suggested we could go to 9;000 FT and get rid of the message. Nobody wants to see the list of messages get longer; so this seemed like a good idea and I requested and started my descent while still holding 290 KTS. All I can add is that ATC may have even been hinting at our overspeed; but by frequently asking us to verify we are in 'emergency status.' I don't know why it took me so long to get the hint; but we must've gone more than 10-15 miles at that speed... more than enough for an obvious speeding ticket. If they weren't hinting to me; then in general it was a bit distracting. I think the emergency situation puts you outside the box to begin with; but I shouldn't have had any amount of hurry in my descent. I didn't hurry the descent rate; I made the suggestions to the Captain for a very long shallow descent rate for the sake of two infants. So I wasn't in a 'hurry' to get down. It seems like in the middle of the hectic part...we made a knee jerk reaction to a message that was normal and we just wanted to get rid of it. In hind sight; I think we both agree we should've stayed at 10;000 FT until completely briefed; both ready for the entire arrival.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.