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Attributes | |
ACN | 1122787 |
Time | |
Date | 201310 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | BUR.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 195 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 233 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
On approach into bur; we were assigned 3;000 MSL until vny and cleared the visual to runway 8. We were number three on the approach. During the approach; we heard both aircraft in front of us report TCAS RA's over the vny airport. Both aircraft reported 'climb' RA's. Both aircraft reported that there was no traffic in sight and ATC reported no conflicting traffic in the area. There were aircraft at vny; but well below a TCAS issue. As we continued towards the runway; we paid close attention to the TCAS display. The only traffic on our display was traffic 2;000 ft below us. As we approached vny; about one mile prior; a TCAS target popped up with an immediate 'descend' RA. At no time was there a TA that we can remember and the traffic showed as +1 and almost immediately on our nose. There would have been almost no possible way to not see something at that position. I; as the pilot flying; disconnected the autopilot to comply with the RA. We did not see any traffic visually and ATC reported no traffic other than the low traffic at vny. Although we were pretty confident there was something in the area giving false RA's; we complied as long as we could as we were descending over an active airport. The RA continued for what seemed like a long time even though we were well past any traffic on the display. Due to the location of the event; where we ended up and the fact that the RA was a descend; I decided that a go-around was not prudent due to the terrain north; south; and east of the airport. We were already fully configured for the approach. Once everything went away; we were about 1;500 AGL and about one dot low on the glide path. I leveled off and made the decision to continue to land as that appeared to be the safest course of action based on traffic; our location; and the unknown of what was causing all the RA's for multiple aircraft with no apparent traffic. This whole situation was very strange due to the fact that it happened to multiple aircraft. As the first officer and I discussed this after the flight; we both agreed that even though the procedure for a RA on approach was a go-around; this situation was somewhat unique and we took the safest action based on what we knew at the time. I think if we had received a 'climb RA' like the other aircraft; a go-around would have been appropriate. After landing; I called dispatch and informed them of what happened so they could inform other burbank arrivals to be aware of the issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 flight crew reports a TCAS RA at 3;000 FT over VNY during approach to BUR; but no aircraft is sighted. The two aircraft preceding the B737 and one following also reported TCAS RA's over VNY with no traffic sighted.
Narrative: On approach into BUR; we were assigned 3;000 MSL until VNY and cleared the visual to Runway 8. We were number three on the approach. During the approach; we heard both aircraft in front of us report TCAS RA's over the VNY airport. Both aircraft reported 'climb' RA's. Both aircraft reported that there was no traffic in sight and ATC reported no conflicting traffic in the area. There were aircraft at VNY; but well below a TCAS issue. As we continued towards the runway; we paid close attention to the TCAS display. The only traffic on our display was traffic 2;000 FT below us. As we approached VNY; about one mile prior; a TCAS target popped up with an immediate 'Descend' RA. At no time was there a TA that we can remember and the traffic showed as +1 and almost immediately on our nose. There would have been almost no possible way to not see something at that position. I; as the Pilot Flying; disconnected the autopilot to comply with the RA. We did not see any traffic visually and ATC reported no traffic other than the low traffic at VNY. Although we were pretty confident there was something in the area giving false RA's; we complied as long as we could as we were descending over an active airport. The RA continued for what seemed like a long time even though we were well past any traffic on the display. Due to the location of the event; where we ended up and the fact that the RA was a descend; I decided that a go-around was not prudent due to the terrain north; south; and east of the airport. We were already fully configured for the approach. Once everything went away; we were about 1;500 AGL and about one dot low on the glide path. I leveled off and made the decision to continue to land as that appeared to be the safest course of action based on traffic; our location; and the unknown of what was causing all the RA's for multiple aircraft with no apparent traffic. This whole situation was very strange due to the fact that it happened to multiple aircraft. As the First Officer and I discussed this after the flight; we both agreed that even though the procedure for a RA on approach was a go-around; this situation was somewhat unique and we took the safest action based on what we knew at the time. I think if we had received a 'Climb RA' like the other aircraft; a go-around would have been appropriate. After landing; I called Dispatch and informed them of what happened so they could inform other Burbank arrivals to be aware of the issue.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.