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Attributes | |
ACN | 1130593 |
Time | |
Date | 201311 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Hydraulic Auxiliary/Standby System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe |
Narrative:
After reaching cruise altitude; observed left hydraulic engine pump EICAS message with press light in associated left hyd engine pump (edp) switch. After accomplishing the QRH procedure and consulting with dispatch; we continued the ETOPS flight with the understanding we still had the left hydraulic system operating and the hydraulic motor generator (hmg) available. The B757 aircraft manual; vol ii states that the power transfer unit (ptu) is provided to supplement the left hydraulic electric motor for several items; including the hmg. B757 vol ii states the ptu automatically activates with the loss of left hyd system or left engine-driven pump (edp) pressure. Question: with the power xfr unit (pto) status message also displayed; did the ptu activate? Did we have hmg available in the event of an electrical failure? I know there are no in-flight crew procedures associated with status messages. Talking with maintenance personnel; it is my understanding that with the loss of left hydraulic engine pump pressure; the power xfr unit status message will also come on; leaving one with only the electric pump pressurizing the left hydraulic system and not enough hydraulic volume for hmg operation. This contradicts our B757 manual; vol ii. It is my understanding the ptu did not activate. After touchdown we did get a brief left system pressure caution as the spoilers and reversers deployed. Does the power xfr unit status message mean we do not have protection of the ptu in the event of left hydraulic pressure loss; or does it mean the ptu will activate; but without its own internal protections? This is important to know. Without the ptu; and subsequent hmg; I would not continue into ETOPS environment. Was safety in the ETOPS environment compromised? Edp failure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Two pilots report they were unclear what an EICAS Status message POWER XFR UNIT (PTU) display meant; when the message appeared after observing a previous L HYD ENG PUMP EICAS message on their B757-200 aircraft. They were getting ready to enter an ETOPS category flight and were concerned about ETOPS safety requirements and legality.
Narrative: After reaching cruise altitude; observed L HYD ENG PUMP EICAS message with PRESS light in associated Left Hyd Engine Pump (EDP) switch. After accomplishing the QRH procedure and consulting with Dispatch; we continued the ETOPS flight with the understanding we still had the Left Hydraulic System operating and the Hydraulic Motor Generator (HMG) available. The B757 Aircraft Manual; Vol II states that the Power Transfer Unit (PTU) is provided to supplement the Left Hydraulic Electric Motor for several items; including the HMG. B757 Vol II states the PTU automatically activates with the loss of Left Hyd System or Left Engine-Driven Pump (EDP) pressure. Question: with the POWER XFR UNIT (PTO) status message also displayed; did the PTU activate? Did we have HMG available in the event of an electrical failure? I know there are no in-flight crew procedures associated with status messages. Talking with Maintenance personnel; it is my understanding that with the loss of L HYD ENG PUMP pressure; the POWER XFR UNIT Status message will also come on; leaving one with only the Electric Pump pressurizing the Left Hydraulic System and not enough hydraulic volume for HMG operation. This contradicts our B757 Manual; Vol II. It is my understanding the PTU did not activate. After touchdown we did get a brief Left System Pressure caution as the spoilers and reversers deployed. Does the POWER XFR UNIT status message mean we do not have protection of the PTU in the event of Left Hydraulic pressure loss; or does it mean the PTU will activate; but without its own internal protections? This is important to know. Without the PTU; and subsequent HMG; I would not continue into ETOPS environment. Was safety in the ETOPS environment compromised? EDP failure.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.