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Rotorcraft using flight following assigned altitude which caused aircraft to enter air traffic area. Controller notified crew after penetration.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 113973 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : frg |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : frg |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 113973 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I departed jfk for east hampton airport while talking to ny approach. I asked for a handoff for flight following. Approach handed me over to another ny approach controller who gave me a climb to 2500' MSL on course. My on course heading took me over frg airport. When I was directly over frg airport ny approach advised me that I didn't have a clearance through the air traffic area. I assumed that ny had gotten a clearance through the air traffic area since he hadn't advised me to do so. Before I entered the frg air traffic area I should have asked ny approach for the clearance or he could have given me a call before I entered the air traffic area telling me I didn't have a clearance through the frg air traffic area and I would have called the tower. Ny approach was not busy at the time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ROTORCRAFT USING FLT FOLLOWING ASSIGNED ALT WHICH CAUSED ACFT TO ENTER ATA. CTLR NOTIFIED CREW AFTER PENETRATION.
Narrative: I DEPARTED JFK FOR EAST HAMPTON ARPT WHILE TALKING TO NY APCH. I ASKED FOR A HANDOFF FOR FLT FOLLOWING. APCH HANDED ME OVER TO ANOTHER NY APCH CTLR WHO GAVE ME A CLIMB TO 2500' MSL ON COURSE. MY ON COURSE HDG TOOK ME OVER FRG ARPT. WHEN I WAS DIRECTLY OVER FRG ARPT NY APCH ADVISED ME THAT I DIDN'T HAVE A CLRNC THROUGH THE ATA. I ASSUMED THAT NY HAD GOTTEN A CLRNC THROUGH THE ATA SINCE HE HADN'T ADVISED ME TO DO SO. BEFORE I ENTERED THE FRG ATA I SHOULD HAVE ASKED NY APCH FOR THE CLRNC OR HE COULD HAVE GIVEN ME A CALL BEFORE I ENTERED THE ATA TELLING ME I DIDN'T HAVE A CLRNC THROUGH THE FRG ATA AND I WOULD HAVE CALLED THE TWR. NY APCH WAS NOT BUSY AT THE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.