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Attributes | |
ACN | 1143252 |
Time | |
Date | 201401 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | FAI.Tower |
State Reference | AK |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo/Chieftan/Mojave/T1040 |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-31P Navajo P |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Deviation - Procedural FAR |
Narrative:
Three aircraft were in line for the approach into fyu. A caravan went in first. We had been told that we should slow for him to avoid holding. We slowed to approximately 150 KTS (groundspeed). The navajo behind us was told to expect a hold. He was number 3 for the approach. The caravan broke out on the approach early; and cancelled IFR. We were then cleared for the approach. We also broke out earlier and cancelled IFR. While on a 7 mile final; we then heard aircraft Y report 9 miles. There was some discussion in the cockpit as to his location and how this would work out. Another captain reported five miles. The pilot of aircraft Y also reported 5 miles and that he was 'passing off our left hand side' (please note we were on final; and had stated such multiple times for runway 4). Both the captain and myself looked to our left and saw aircraft Y very close to us (less than 200 ft); and passing us. I queried aircraft Y as to what his intentions were. He stated he was going to pass us on final and land on runway 4. I asked him if he thought that doing this maneuver would give him adequate time to back taxi before we landed. The pilot of aircraft Y responded by saying he would just 'fly a pattern then' and it was 'no big deal'. Aircraft Y continued to midfield then entered right downwind (the alaska supplement shows left traffic for runway 4). We landed without event; and the captain performed a 180 deg turn on the runway in order to back taxi to the ramp. When we turned around; aircraft Y was on a very short final and came very close to landing over the top of us. We exited the runway without event. When on the ground; our passengers were very upset that the other aircraft was so close. They were confused and made comments that we should 'report the other pilot.'poor piloting by the pilot of aircraft Y; as well as deviation from the following regulations. 1) passing on the left hand side of an aircraft. 2) flying too close to other aircraft. 3) cutting ahead of another aircraft on final. 4) flying right hand traffic for runway 4. 5) not judging his base to final turn correctly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA31 First Officer reports being passed on a five mile final to PFYU by another PA31. With the need to back taxi after landing the other pilot is encouraged to enter the pattern and land when the runway is clear. This is accomplished but with little room to spare.
Narrative: Three aircraft were in line for the approach into FYU. A Caravan went in first. We had been told that we should slow for him to avoid holding. We slowed to approximately 150 KTS (groundspeed). The Navajo behind us was told to expect a hold. He was Number 3 for the approach. The Caravan broke out on the approach early; and cancelled IFR. We were then cleared for the approach. We also broke out earlier and cancelled IFR. While on a 7 mile final; we then heard Aircraft Y report 9 miles. There was some discussion in the cockpit as to his location and how this would work out. Another Captain reported five miles. The pilot of Aircraft Y also reported 5 miles and that he was 'passing off our left hand side' (please note we were on final; and had stated such multiple times for Runway 4). Both the Captain and myself looked to our left and saw Aircraft Y very close to us (less than 200 FT); and passing us. I queried Aircraft Y as to what his intentions were. He stated he was going to pass us on final and land on Runway 4. I asked him if he thought that doing this maneuver would give him adequate time to back taxi before we landed. The pilot of Aircraft Y responded by saying he would just 'fly a pattern then' and it was 'no big deal'. Aircraft Y continued to midfield then entered right downwind (the Alaska Supplement shows left traffic for Runway 4). We landed without event; and the Captain performed a 180 deg turn on the runway in order to back taxi to the ramp. When we turned around; Aircraft Y was on a VERY short final and came very close to landing over the top of us. We exited the runway without event. When on the ground; our passengers were very upset that the other aircraft was so close. They were confused and made comments that we should 'report the other pilot.'Poor piloting by the pilot of Aircraft Y; as well as deviation from the following regulations. 1) Passing on the left hand side of an aircraft. 2) Flying too close to other aircraft. 3) Cutting ahead of another aircraft on final. 4) Flying right hand traffic for Runway 4. 5) Not judging his base to final turn correctly.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.