<< >> NASA ASRS Report 115757, July 1989

Pilot on IFR flight without approach plates for destination airport. Pilot lacked approach plates before departure.

Attributes
ACN	115757
Time
Date	198907
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : jyy airport : yyj
State Reference	BC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : yyj tower : ilm
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 600 flight time type : 10
ASRS Report	115757
Person 2
Affiliation	government other
Function	oversight : supervisor
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flight bfi to victoria back course. I knew from WX briefing that victoria was 5000' broken ocnl 3000 broken 20 mi. Could not obtain approach plates prior departure. Planned to return to bfi or divert friday harbor if instrument approach required. Admitted to ATC voluntarily that victoria approach plates not on board. Airport in sight. We asked to call tower supervisor upon landing. Scolded for not having plates to victoria while on IFR plan. I said I would obtain prior to departure which I did. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter stated that he made a VMC approach into victoria with good visibility. He had advised approach control on his own that he did not have the appropriate approach plates. Further stated that they were difficult, and in this case impossible, to obtain. Would not elaborate on necessity to proceed without them. After some conversation he assured analyst that he would never take this course of action again. When asked if he had penetrated any airspace he answered in the negative.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT ON IFR FLT WITHOUT APCH PLATES FOR DESTINATION ARPT. PLT LACKED APCH PLATES BEFORE DEP.

Narrative: FLT BFI TO VICTORIA BC. I KNEW FROM WX BRIEFING THAT VICTORIA WAS 5000' BROKEN OCNL 3000 BROKEN 20 MI. COULD NOT OBTAIN APCH PLATES PRIOR DEP. PLANNED TO RETURN TO BFI OR DIVERT FRIDAY HARBOR IF INSTRUMENT APCH REQUIRED. ADMITTED TO ATC VOLUNTARILY THAT VICTORIA APCH PLATES NOT ON BOARD. ARPT IN SIGHT. WE ASKED TO CALL TWR SUPVR UPON LNDG. SCOLDED FOR NOT HAVING PLATES TO VICTORIA WHILE ON IFR PLAN. I SAID I WOULD OBTAIN PRIOR TO DEP WHICH I DID. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: REPORTER STATED THAT HE MADE A VMC APCH INTO VICTORIA WITH GOOD VISIBILITY. HE HAD ADVISED APCH CTL ON HIS OWN THAT HE DID NOT HAVE THE APPROPRIATE APCH PLATES. FURTHER STATED THAT THEY WERE DIFFICULT, AND IN THIS CASE IMPOSSIBLE, TO OBTAIN. WOULD NOT ELABORATE ON NECESSITY TO PROCEED WITHOUT THEM. AFTER SOME CONVERSATION HE ASSURED ANALYST THAT HE WOULD NEVER TAKE THIS COURSE OF ACTION AGAIN. WHEN ASKED IF HE HAD PENETRATED ANY AIRSPACE HE ANSWERED IN THE NEGATIVE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.