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Attributes | |
ACN | 1161906 |
Time | |
Date | 201404 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.TRACON |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Check Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Trainee Pilot Flying First Officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
We were being vectored onto the approach to runway 28L. ATC gave us a heading of 300 degrees and just as we crossed the localizer they gave us instructions to descend to 4;000 ft; reduce speed to 180 KTS; and cleared for the approach. The first officer; as pilot flying; armed the approach on the flight guidance panel and both the localizer and glideslope captured simultaneously. Given that we were crossing the localizer as it captured; the bank was a bit more than usual and; with the airspeed bugged to 180 KTS; the speed began to rapidly deteriorate. I yelled; 'watch your speed!' but the first officer did not react and within seconds the speed decreased to the point where we got the stick shaker. When the first officer did not react to that either I immediately took control of the aircraft and returned the speed to normal. We continued the approach and landed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An ERJ-175 Check Airman conducting IOE for a new First Officer took control of the aircraft when the First Officer failed to respond with appropriate thrust reponse to an aggressive loss of airspeed during an abrupt localiser and glide slope capture. The airspeed decayed to stick shaker before the deceleration was reversed.
Narrative: We were being vectored onto the approach to Runway 28L. ATC gave us a heading of 300 degrees and just as we crossed the localizer they gave us instructions to descend to 4;000 FT; reduce speed to 180 KTS; and cleared for the approach. The First Officer; as pilot flying; armed the approach on the flight guidance panel and both the localizer and glideslope captured simultaneously. Given that we were crossing the localizer as it captured; the bank was a bit more than usual and; with the airspeed bugged to 180 KTS; the speed began to rapidly deteriorate. I yelled; 'Watch your speed!' but the First Officer did not react and within seconds the speed decreased to the point where we got the stick shaker. When the First Officer did not react to that either I immediately took control of the aircraft and returned the speed to normal. We continued the approach and landed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.