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Pilot thinks he has clearance to cross an active runway; then while crossing; questions if he really did.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1168852 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201404 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | VRB.Airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 101.3 Flight Crew Total 381.1 Flight Crew Type 308.5 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
I was with my student holding short at taxiway D for a runway (12R) crossing clearance to go back to the ramp after the last landing on 12L. It was a busy morning and soon there was another aircraft pulled up behind us. We had to wait for sometime; about 7 minutes or so while multiple aircraft taking off and landing on the runway. But then the ground controller started transmission 'no need to respond; I acknowledge your patience.' while I didn't see any more traffic on the final; I started moving before realizing it wasn't a crossing instruction. I pulled up and heard the controller stopping the aircraft behind us then subsequently instructed us to expedite crossing the runway. I stopped on the taxiway cleared of 12R until the ground controller called us again. He asked what happened and was answered with apologies that we misunderstood. Then we got the taxi instruction to the ramp. I may have got little complacent with the operations at this airport and didn't pay much attention to different instructions. The phrases like 'thank you for patience' were with runway crossing clearance in many cases. And often I heard 'no need to respond' whenever a controller makes multiple aircraft crossing a runway at the same time. But they never should be confused or assumed to be a clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot thinks he has clearance to cross an active runway; then while crossing; questions if he really did.
Narrative: I was with my student holding short at taxiway D for a Runway (12R) crossing clearance to go back to the ramp after the last landing on 12L. It was a busy morning and soon there was another aircraft pulled up behind us. We had to wait for sometime; about 7 minutes or so while multiple aircraft taking off and landing on the runway. But then the Ground Controller started transmission 'No need to respond; I acknowledge your patience.' While I didn't see any more traffic on the final; I started moving before realizing it wasn't a crossing instruction. I pulled up and heard the controller stopping the aircraft behind us then subsequently instructed us to expedite crossing the runway. I stopped on the taxiway cleared of 12R until the Ground Controller called us again. He asked what happened and was answered with apologies that we misunderstood. Then we got the taxi instruction to the ramp. I may have got little complacent with the operations at this airport and didn't pay much attention to different instructions. The phrases like 'Thank you for patience' were with runway crossing clearance in many cases. And often I heard 'no need to respond' whenever a controller makes multiple aircraft crossing a runway at the same time. But they never should be confused or assumed to be a clearance.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.