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Attributes | |
ACN | 1182761 |
Time | |
Date | 201406 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | JFK.Airport |
State Reference | NY |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
We were cleared for a VOR/GPS 13L approach. The visibility was unrestricted and the winds were 180/17 G23. I conferred with the first officer (first officer) and we agreed on the RNAV 13L approach in the FMS. There was an RNAV 13L and a VOR 13L in the FMS. We even discussed the reluctance of ATC to clear us for the visual since we need to have traffic and airport in sight. I briefed a flaps 15; autobrakes 2 landing at an approximate landing weight of 127;000 pounds following a visual hand flown approach; backed up by LNAV/VNAV. We had a 27 KT tailwind; I hand flew the approach from asalt with traffic ahead and airport in sight. I remainded at 3;000 ft until zadud; approach gave me 3 rapid speed reductions because of the tailwind and traffic ahead from 200; 170; to 150 KTS prior to zadud. I was gear down; flaps 15; prior to descent. While configuring; slowing and asking the first officer for the flap inhibit switch; and receiving a clearance to contact tower. The first officer correctly realized that on the 45 degree track; we were left of cri VOR and had the wrong approach in the FMS. I was concentrating on ground track vs LNAV; remaining to the right of the long island expressway and following the lead in lights to runway 13L. And keep the traffic ahead insight. The first officer was trying to convince me that we were off track and he was trying to change the FMS approach to the VOR/GPS 13L. I said;'we still need the flap inhibit switch; need to contact tower; and finish the checklist. I'm proceeding visually and it's too late to change the FMC; I need you heads up outside.' we were cleared to land on 13L and turned off at taxiway echo. Upon debriefing the first officer; I realized he felt out of the loop; and was focused on the fact that we chose the wrong approach and needed to rectify it. We were in a high workload environment and I was focused on a continuous descending visual with a tailwind turning into a gusty crosswind landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: The Captain and First Officer of a B737-800 suffered a breakdown in communication before beginning and approach to Runway 13L at JFK. Confusion and a modest track deviation were the result.
Narrative: We were cleared for a VOR/GPS 13L approach. The visibility was unrestricted and the winds were 180/17 G23. I conferred with the First Officer (FO) and we agreed on the RNAV 13L approach in the FMS. There was an RNAV 13L and a VOR 13L in the FMS. We even discussed the reluctance of ATC to clear us for the visual since we need to have traffic and airport in sight. I briefed a flaps 15; autobrakes 2 landing at an approximate landing weight of 127;000 LBS following a visual hand flown approach; backed up by LNAV/VNAV. We had a 27 KT tailwind; I hand flew the approach from ASALT with traffic ahead and airport in sight. I remainded at 3;000 FT until ZADUD; Approach gave me 3 rapid speed reductions because of the tailwind and traffic ahead from 200; 170; to 150 KTS prior to ZADUD. I was gear down; flaps 15; prior to descent. While configuring; slowing and asking the FO for the flap inhibit switch; and receiving a clearance to contact Tower. The FO correctly realized that on the 45 degree track; we were left of CRI VOR and had the wrong approach in the FMS. I was concentrating on ground track vs LNAV; remaining to the right of the Long Island Expressway and following the lead in lights to runway 13L. And keep the traffic ahead insight. The FO was trying to convince me that we were off track and he was trying to change the FMS approach to the VOR/GPS 13L. I said;'We still need the flap inhibit switch; need to contact Tower; and finish the checklist. I'm proceeding visually and it's too late to change the FMC; I need you heads up outside.' We were cleared to land on 13L and turned off at Taxiway Echo. Upon debriefing the FO; I realized he felt out of the loop; and was focused on the fact that we chose the wrong approach and needed to rectify it. We were in a high workload environment and I was focused on a continuous descending visual with a tailwind turning into a gusty crosswind landing.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.