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Attributes | |
ACN | 118320 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 16300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v134 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 118320 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan and requested VFR on top at 14500'; the controller cleared me for this. About 10 mins later he came back and told me that I was entering an area where the minimum IFR altitude was 16300', and said no more. I thought he was just letting me know that there was higher terrain. Since then I have reread the regulations and aim, and find that even on a VFR on top clearance, I must maintain minimum IFR altitudes. I have done this very same action 5-10 times in the last 4 months west/O understanding the regulation. I believe that if a controller knows or believes that you are breaking a regulation that he should advise you if possible, or suggest that altitude due to regulations. Pilots could also spend more time becoming familiar with regulations and the aim.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VFR ON TOP CRUISING DID NOT MEET MINIMUM IFR CRUISING ALT CRITERIA.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN AND REQUESTED VFR ON TOP AT 14500'; THE CTLR CLRED ME FOR THIS. ABOUT 10 MINS LATER HE CAME BACK AND TOLD ME THAT I WAS ENTERING AN AREA WHERE THE MINIMUM IFR ALT WAS 16300', AND SAID NO MORE. I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST LETTING ME KNOW THAT THERE WAS HIGHER TERRAIN. SINCE THEN I HAVE REREAD THE REGS AND AIM, AND FIND THAT EVEN ON A VFR ON TOP CLRNC, I MUST MAINTAIN MINIMUM IFR ALTS. I HAVE DONE THIS VERY SAME ACTION 5-10 TIMES IN THE LAST 4 MONTHS W/O UNDERSTANDING THE REG. I BELIEVE THAT IF A CTLR KNOWS OR BELIEVES THAT YOU ARE BREAKING A REG THAT HE SHOULD ADVISE YOU IF POSSIBLE, OR SUGGEST THAT ALT DUE TO REGS. PLTS COULD ALSO SPEND MORE TIME BECOMING FAMILIAR WITH REGS AND THE AIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.