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Attributes | |
ACN | 1183455 |
Time | |
Date | 201406 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | A39.Airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 33 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole/Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Trainee Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Student |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
Narrative:
My instructor pulled the throttle for a simulated engine failure at 4;500 ft above a local airport. A seminole was in the pattern in left traffic for runway 22. I was maneuvering for a high left base for the same runway; thought I was too high and wanted to make a left 360 to lose altitude (turning towards downwind). At the same time the seminole made a call that he was on left downwind; reported us in sight and asked if we were making high final runway 22. My instructor didn't respond. A backseater saw the other aircraft and called 'pull up; go-around' when he lost the aircraft under the wing. My instructor called 'throttle forward' and I made a go-around. The backseater called traffic in sight again and vertical distance was about 100 ft. The seminole didn't report a near miss. They probably didn't see us since we were already behind him. After the touch and go the seminole vacated the traffic pattern and we tried another simulated engine failure. I suggest there should be no practice forced landings at uncontrolled airports when there are other aircraft in the pattern; unless there is thorough communication between flight crews.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A student pilot and his instructor experienced an NMAC with an aircraft in the traffic pattern of an uncontrolled field while conducting a practice forced landing from high altitude.
Narrative: My instructor pulled the throttle for a simulated engine failure at 4;500 FT above a local airport. A Seminole was in the pattern in left traffic for Runway 22. I was maneuvering for a high left base for the same runway; thought I was too high and wanted to make a left 360 to lose altitude (turning towards downwind). At the same time the Seminole made a call that he was on left downwind; reported us in sight and asked if we were making high final Runway 22. My instructor didn't respond. A backseater saw the other aircraft and called 'pull up; go-around' when he lost the aircraft under the wing. My instructor called 'throttle forward' and I made a go-around. The backseater called traffic in sight again and vertical distance was about 100 FT. The Seminole didn't report a near miss. They probably didn't see us since we were already behind him. After the touch and go the Seminole vacated the traffic pattern and we tried another simulated engine failure. I suggest there should be no practice forced landings at uncontrolled airports when there are other aircraft in the pattern; unless there is thorough communication between flight crews.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.