Narrative:

On initial approach; I was cleared direct to the airfield while descending to 2;000 MSL. I was advised to call the airport when it was insight. At approximately 3;000 ft MSL while descending; I broke out into VFR conditions and was able to see the airfield. I attempted to cancel the IFR flight plan numerous times. This was caused by a trainee talking with me and the trainer talking with an aircraft that was on approach to a nearby airfield (blm). I understand that there is a need for a trainer to oversee a trainee however; when the trainee is speaking to a specific aircraft; the trainer should be listening to that exchange. This happened a few times during our initial approach to the point where I could not understand which aircraft that ATC was referencing. I agree that sometimes more pressing issues arise which students may not realize; but talking over a student while he is in an exchange with a different aircraft creates a very unsafe environment in the congested ny airspace. I attempted to relay this to the training controller and got a very bad response from him. As someone who has used mcguire approach two to three times a week for the past 7-8 years; the have increasingly put aircraft in unsafe conditions usually because of this procedure. Ny approach working the jfk sector does this type of training routinely and you never hear the trainer working aircraft other than the one the student is talking to.

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Title: Pilot reports of WRI ATC instructor talking to one aircraft while the Developmental is talking to him. This leads to congestion on the frequency and the pilot reporting cannot cancel IFR.

Narrative: On initial approach; I was cleared direct to the airfield while descending to 2;000 MSL. I was advised to call the airport when it was insight. At approximately 3;000 FT MSL while descending; I broke out into VFR conditions and was able to see the airfield. I attempted to cancel the IFR flight plan numerous times. This was caused by a trainee talking with me and the trainer talking with an aircraft that was on approach to a nearby airfield (BLM). I understand that there is a need for a trainer to oversee a trainee however; when the trainee is speaking to a specific aircraft; the trainer should be listening to that exchange. This happened a few times during our initial approach to the point where I could not understand which aircraft that ATC was referencing. I agree that sometimes more pressing issues arise which students may not realize; but talking over a student while he is in an exchange with a different aircraft creates a very unsafe environment in the congested NY airspace. I attempted to relay this to the training Controller and got a very bad response from him. As someone who has used McGuire Approach two to three times a week for the past 7-8 years; the have increasingly put aircraft in unsafe conditions usually because of this procedure. NY Approach working the JFK Sector does this type of training routinely and you never hear the trainer working aircraft other than the one the student is talking to.

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