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Attributes | |
ACN | 1189882 |
Time | |
Date | 201407 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | DC-9 10 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was pilot flying on the leg when my first officer accessed ATIS which; according to the chart; is AWOS when the tower is closed. The weather we got was 230@5; 10 SM; 4;500 broken; 29/23; 29.96. My approach suggested that the wind was not quite as reported; but the landing was uneventful. After taxiing in and shutting down; I checked the ATIS/AWOS again; and we'd copied down the weather correctly. The problem was that it was not AWOS; but rather; it was ATIS zulu. Tower evidently forgot to switch it over to AWOS when they closed. The weather was from XA45Z; and we were landing almost 7 hours later. The actual weather (we were able to get it afterwards on my first officer's phone) was 350@11g18; 10 SM; 3;900 ovc; 20/17; 30.05. We thought we had current weather; but due to what probably was tower's mistake; we did not.if both pilots independently listened to the weather; one of us might have noticed that it was ATIS and not AWOS; at a time when the tower normally is closed. It was a short flight; and I was trying to avoid areas of lightning. Also; if the pilot who copies the ATIS/AWOS routinely includes the zulu time which is broadcast with it; that might have alerted us that something wasn't quite right. Also; if the tower personnel do not have a departure checklist that includes switching the ATIS to AWOS; adding such a checklist/procedure might prevent a recurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: When ATC apparently forgot to make the switch from ATIS to AWOS weather reporting the flight crew of an air carrier flight failed to note the error and landed utilizing a report some seven hours old which differed significantly; especially with respect to wind direction and velocity.
Narrative: I was pilot flying on the leg when my First Officer accessed ATIS which; according to the chart; is AWOS when the Tower is closed. The weather we got was 230@5; 10 SM; 4;500 BKN; 29/23; 29.96. My approach suggested that the wind was not quite as reported; but the landing was uneventful. After taxiing in and shutting down; I checked the ATIS/AWOS again; and we'd copied down the weather correctly. The problem was that it was not AWOS; but rather; it was ATIS Zulu. Tower evidently forgot to switch it over to AWOS when they closed. The weather was from XA45Z; and we were landing almost 7 hours later. The actual weather (we were able to get it afterwards on my First Officer's phone) was 350@11G18; 10 SM; 3;900 OVC; 20/17; 30.05. We thought we had current weather; but due to what probably was Tower's mistake; we did not.If both pilots independently listened to the weather; one of us might have noticed that it was ATIS and not AWOS; at a time when the Tower normally is closed. It was a short flight; and I was trying to avoid areas of lightning. Also; if the pilot who copies the ATIS/AWOS routinely includes the Zulu Time which is broadcast with it; that might have alerted us that something wasn't quite right. Also; if the Tower personnel do not have a departure checklist that includes switching the ATIS to AWOS; adding such a checklist/procedure might prevent a recurrence.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.