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Attributes | |
ACN | 119746 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 119746 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This conflict with air traffic control occurred on a flight from bradley field, hartford, ct, en route to pittsburgh's greater int'l airport. While at cruise altitude, approximately 150 mi east of pittsburgh, ZNY requested me to accelerate the aircraft to 330 KIAS or greater, because we had been experiencing some intermittent turbulence, my reply was that I could give him 280 KIAS or less. (This is the aircraft's recommended turbulence penetration airspeed.) for the next 10 or 15 mins the ZNY controller continued to ask me, as well as other aircraft in the area, about turbulence reports. On 2 occasions, he explained to other aircraft that they were being slowed because of my 280 KIAS. (I would have gladly taken a vector!) the controller was trying to make a big issue of my speed (280) and was obviously displeased when I could not comply with his request for 330 KIAS or greater.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COM CONFLICT BETWEEN FLT CREW OF MLG AND ARTCC RADAR CTLR.
Narrative: THIS CONFLICT WITH AIR TFC CTL OCCURRED ON A FLT FROM BRADLEY FIELD, HARTFORD, CT, ENRTE TO PITTSBURGH'S GREATER INT'L ARPT. WHILE AT CRUISE ALT, APPROX 150 MI E OF PITTSBURGH, ZNY REQUESTED ME TO ACCELERATE THE ACFT TO 330 KIAS OR GREATER, BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME INTERMITTENT TURBULENCE, MY REPLY WAS THAT I COULD GIVE HIM 280 KIAS OR LESS. (THIS IS THE ACFT'S RECOMMENDED TURBULENCE PENETRATION AIRSPEED.) FOR THE NEXT 10 OR 15 MINS THE ZNY CTLR CONTINUED TO ASK ME, AS WELL AS OTHER ACFT IN THE AREA, ABOUT TURBULENCE REPORTS. ON 2 OCCASIONS, HE EXPLAINED TO OTHER ACFT THAT THEY WERE BEING SLOWED BECAUSE OF MY 280 KIAS. (I WOULD HAVE GLADLY TAKEN A VECTOR!) THE CTLR WAS TRYING TO MAKE A BIG ISSUE OF MY SPEED (280) AND WAS OBVIOUSLY DISPLEASED WHEN I COULD NOT COMPLY WITH HIS REQUEST FOR 330 KIAS OR GREATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.