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Attributes | |
ACN | 1198237 |
Time | |
Date | 201408 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DEN.Airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 1.5 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
The southwest arrival gate was shut-off due to weather. Their arrivals were routed tower-en-route via publication..brk..fqf..kden. This took all the southwest arrivals head-on with all the south departures (as they were coming out via spazz/stakr/publication due to weather). Towards the tail end of the arrival push; aircraft X was approximately 5 miles in front of aircraft Y a apa arrival deviating. R2601 was active FL349 and below complicating matters. After aircraft Y was no longer deviating north (toward R2601); I assigned present heading. At this time; both aircraft X and aircraft Y were descending 170. Aircraft X had been a few thousand feet lower the entire time. I turned aircraft X direct brk thinking aircraft Y would stay behind still. I slowed aircraft Y to 250kt. The turn to brk was enough to where I was going to loose lateral separation. At this time; aircraft Y was descending through FL230 and aircraft X was leaving FL220. I stopped aircraft Y at FL220; and expedited aircraft X to 170. I believe aircraft X did not descend at a rate quickly enough to keep separation. I noticed while aircraft Y was on the edge of the bubble; aircraft X was leaving FL212 and aircraft Y was leveling off at FL220. There was also an ALS arrival; and an ALS departure while all of this was going on. I should have used vertical separation until I was sure lateral would work.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZDV Controller reports of a loss of separation due to a slow descent rate of the lower aircraft.
Narrative: The southwest arrival gate was shut-off due to weather. Their arrivals were routed tower-en-route via PUB..BRK..FQF..KDEN. This took all the southwest arrivals head-on with all the south departures (as they were coming out via SPAZZ/STAKR/PUB due to weather). Towards the tail end of the arrival push; Aircraft X was approximately 5 miles in front of Aircraft Y a APA arrival deviating. R2601 was active FL349 and below complicating matters. After Aircraft Y was no longer deviating north (toward R2601); I assigned present heading. At this time; both Aircraft X and Aircraft Y were descending 170. Aircraft X had been a few thousand feet lower the entire time. I turned Aircraft X direct BRK thinking Aircraft Y would stay behind still. I slowed Aircraft Y to 250kt. The turn to BRK was enough to where I was going to loose lateral separation. At this time; Aircraft Y was descending through FL230 and Aircraft X was leaving FL220. I stopped Aircraft Y at FL220; and expedited Aircraft X to 170. I believe Aircraft X did not descend at a rate quickly enough to keep separation. I noticed while Aircraft Y was on the edge of the bubble; Aircraft X was leaving FL212 and Aircraft Y was leveling off at FL220. There was also an ALS arrival; and an ALS departure while all of this was going on. I should have used vertical separation until I was sure lateral would work.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.