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Attributes | |
ACN | 119939 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jot |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 22500 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 119939 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
This situation is more common as time goes by and involves a clearance to fly a certain clearance given by one controller and finding yourself switched to another controller with a different understanding of the clearance given. Inbound to jot VOR we were given a descent from FL270 to 15,000. Clearance was then to turn to 360 degree, direct jot out of FL230. This was given on 125.05. A change to frequency 135.15 and controller asked where we were going. I answered, direct to jot. We were turned to 330 degree and told direct to jot out of FL200 and that that was our original clearance. I replied that it was not our original clearance but I complied with the direct jot out of FL200 as he understood it. Similar occurrences have happened involving these same sectors of chicago center in the past.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CHANGE OF CLRNC UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN CTLRS.
Narrative: THIS SITUATION IS MORE COMMON AS TIME GOES BY AND INVOLVES A CLRNC TO FLY A CERTAIN CLRNC GIVEN BY ONE CTLR AND FINDING YOURSELF SWITCHED TO ANOTHER CTLR WITH A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLRNC GIVEN. INBND TO JOT VOR WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT FROM FL270 TO 15,000. CLRNC WAS THEN TO TURN TO 360 DEG, DIRECT JOT OUT OF FL230. THIS WAS GIVEN ON 125.05. A CHANGE TO FREQ 135.15 AND CTLR ASKED WHERE WE WERE GOING. I ANSWERED, DIRECT TO JOT. WE WERE TURNED TO 330 DEG AND TOLD DIRECT TO JOT OUT OF FL200 AND THAT THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL CLRNC. I REPLIED THAT IT WAS NOT OUR ORIGINAL CLRNC BUT I COMPLIED WITH THE DIRECT JOT OUT OF FL200 AS HE UNDERSTOOD IT. SIMILAR OCCURRENCES HAVE HAPPENED INVOLVING THESE SAME SECTORS OF CHICAGO CENTER IN THE PAST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.