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Medium large transport flight crew received clearance for right turn after takeoff with vectors to VOR. Controller expected them to fly SID.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 119963 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ont |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ont |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 1250 |
| ASRS Report | 119963 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Our departure controller was expecting us to be flying a departure procedure other than the one issued. We were filed the prado 2 departure, using runway 8R. But clearance delivery issued 'after takeoff, right turn heading 110 degree, radar vectors daggett (dag), direct needles (eed), J-6 drake (drk), as filed. We had established the 110 degree heading on first contact with departure control (119.65), who asked us to verify we were on the prado 2 departure procedure, which would have had us on about a 175 degree course direct to the paradise (pdz) VOR. The controller adjusted to our response quickly, and it didn't appear to cause a problem, but the system's 'failure to communicate' could have presented a hazard to safe flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLT CREW RECEIVED CLRNC FOR RIGHT TURN AFTER TKOF WITH VECTORS TO VOR. CTLR EXPECTED THEM TO FLY SID.
Narrative: OUR DEP CTLR WAS EXPECTING US TO BE FLYING A DEP PROC OTHER THAN THE ONE ISSUED. WE WERE FILED THE PRADO 2 DEP, USING RWY 8R. BUT CLRNC DELIVERY ISSUED 'AFTER TKOF, RIGHT TURN HDG 110 DEG, RADAR VECTORS DAGGETT (DAG), DIRECT NEEDLES (EED), J-6 DRAKE (DRK), AS FILED. WE HAD ESTABLISHED THE 110 DEG HDG ON FIRST CONTACT WITH DEP CTL (119.65), WHO ASKED US TO VERIFY WE WERE ON THE PRADO 2 DEP PROC, WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD US ON ABOUT A 175 DEG COURSE DIRECT TO THE PARADISE (PDZ) VOR. THE CTLR ADJUSTED TO OUR RESPONSE QUICKLY, AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO CAUSE A PROBLEM, BUT THE SYSTEM'S 'FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE' COULD HAVE PRESENTED A HAZARD TO SAFE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.