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Attributes | |
ACN | 1205466 |
Time | |
Date | 201409 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors Visual Approach STAR KEPEC3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 20000 Flight Crew Type 3500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Miss Distance | Vertical 1860 |
Narrative:
Arriving on the kepec arrival we were given a heading after kepec and 8100' altitude. Previous [aircraft] cleared RNAV 7R (which we don't have) along with approach radio terrain clearances on in to 7R from the north. We were asked if we could see the field; we could. We were cleared the visual about 20 miles out. I placed a vnv 10 mi final with a 3 degree GS for 7R. Making a right dogleg to final and descending on that path and still ~12 mi) southwest at 6;000' we received a 2500' call followed by 'caution terrain'. I was concentrating on managing the approach and keeping 7R in sight. I climbed to clear the warning. We were unable to see terrain in the dark desert headed into the bright lights of las. After I climbed the controller asked if I could see the terrain. This is not a good setup. At the time we had a tail wind and were going to land with a 15 kt direct crosswind. None of this alone makes an incident. I feel this is a setup by las approach. Kepec is not a good position to clear for the visual even up to about 15 miles out at night some guidance is required. I also wish we had an RNAV to 7R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 Captain reports being offered a night visual approach to Runway 7R at LAS from over KEPEC; and accepting. During the maneuver a terrain warning is annunciated and the reporter pulls up to silence the warning before continuing.
Narrative: Arriving on the KEPEC arrival we were given a heading after KEPEC and 8100' altitude. Previous [aircraft] cleared RNAV 7R (which we don't have) along with approach radio terrain clearances on in to 7R from the north. We were asked if we could see the field; we could. We were cleared the visual about 20 miles out. I placed a VNV 10 mi final with a 3 degree GS for 7R. Making a right dogleg to final and descending on that path and still ~12 mi) Southwest at 6;000' we received a 2500' call followed by 'Caution Terrain'. I was concentrating on managing the approach and keeping 7R in sight. I climbed to clear the warning. We were unable to see terrain in the dark desert headed into the bright lights of LAS. After I climbed the controller asked if I could see the terrain. This is not a good setup. At the time we had a tail wind and were going to land with a 15 kt direct crosswind. None of this alone makes an incident. I feel this is a setup by LAS Approach. KEPEC is not a good position to clear for the visual even up to about 15 miles out at night some guidance is required. I also wish we had an RNAV to 7R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.