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Attributes | |
ACN | 1207032 |
Time | |
Date | 201409 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZSE.ARTCC |
State Reference | WA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR CHINS5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Aero Charts |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were filed and cleared to bfi via the chins STAR to land 13R. When cleared to descend via the arrival I put 11000 in the FMC for the altitude at raddy because I saw the note on the plate referencing boeing field. I did not see the note was only for 31L. The crossing should have been 16000. The note above for turbo jets appeared to be for seatac. The controller advised us upon reaching 11000 that 'for future reference the crossing at raddy is 16000.' I questioned this and he pointed out the note on the plate was for 31L. His next comment was 'no problem; this is a poorly written arrival and it not the first time and it won't be the last.' there was no traffic conflict but if it had been at a busier time there could have been.the 'descend via' the arrival procedure should be more airport specific and there should be clearer notes if they are going to be used. I feel this clearance should have been 'cross raddy at 16000' if it was the old way. I hope this will prompt some clean up on the use of a single arrival plate for multiple airports. There seems to be too many plates for some airports and too little definition on ones like this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier flight crew intending to land on Runway 13L at BFI and cleared to descend via the CHINS STAR misinterpreted the chart crossing restrictions. They crossed RADDY at 11;000 instead of 16;000 as directed by the generic 'TURBOJETS LANDING SOUTH' that pertains to arrivals at 'all' airports served by the arrival.
Narrative: We were filed and cleared to BFI via the CHINS STAR to land 13R. When cleared to descend via the arrival I put 11000 in the FMC for the altitude at RADDY because I saw the note on the plate referencing Boeing Field. I did not see the note was only for 31L. The crossing should have been 16000. The note above for turbo jets appeared to be for SeaTac. The controller advised us upon reaching 11000 that 'for future reference the crossing at RADDY is 16000.' I questioned this and he pointed out the note on the plate was for 31L. His next comment was 'no problem; this is a poorly written arrival and it not the first time and it won't be the last.' There was no traffic conflict but if it had been at a busier time there could have been.The 'descend via' the arrival procedure should be more airport specific and there should be clearer notes if they are going to be used. I feel this clearance should have been 'cross RADDY at 16000' if it was the old way. I hope this will prompt some clean up on the use of a single arrival plate for multiple airports. There seems to be too many plates for some airports and too little definition on ones like this.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.