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Attributes | |
ACN | 120715 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 120715 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
As we taxied out to assigned runway 01R we noted that various windsocks and flags indicated a wind different from the ATIS wind of 280 degrees at 14 KTS. Our weight was marginal for the takeoff with any tailwind. Several times we asked ground control for the wind and were repeatedly given 280 degrees at about 15 KTS. Approaching the runway we switched to tower frequency and heard an aircraft cleared to land on runway 28 had also given a wind shear alert: '10 gain at 120'.' we requested runway 28. During taxi we asked the tower why we, as a departing aircraft, were not advised of the wind shear alert. The reply was that no departing aircraft had reported the wind shear yet, so it was only arriving aircraft being alerted. We rechked both departure and arrival ATIS; no wind shear alerts were mentioned. If we had known that wind shear existed anywhere near the airport, we would not even have considered runway 01R for takeoff, and requested 28 form the beginning. It would seem that if wind shear is known to exist anywhere near the airport that everyone should be told about it and not have to find out about it by accident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WIND SHEAR REPORTED ON APCH-LNDG RWY NOT RELAYED TO TKOF ACFT BY TWR.
Narrative: AS WE TAXIED OUT TO ASSIGNED RWY 01R WE NOTED THAT VARIOUS WINDSOCKS AND FLAGS INDICATED A WIND DIFFERENT FROM THE ATIS WIND OF 280 DEGS AT 14 KTS. OUR WT WAS MARGINAL FOR THE TKOF WITH ANY TAILWIND. SEVERAL TIMES WE ASKED GND CTL FOR THE WIND AND WERE REPEATEDLY GIVEN 280 DEGS AT ABOUT 15 KTS. APCHING THE RWY WE SWITCHED TO TWR FREQ AND HEARD AN ACFT CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 28 HAD ALSO GIVEN A WIND SHEAR ALERT: '10 GAIN AT 120'.' WE REQUESTED RWY 28. DURING TAXI WE ASKED THE TWR WHY WE, AS A DEPARTING ACFT, WERE NOT ADVISED OF THE WIND SHEAR ALERT. THE REPLY WAS THAT NO DEPARTING ACFT HAD RPTED THE WIND SHEAR YET, SO IT WAS ONLY ARRIVING ACFT BEING ALERTED. WE RECHKED BOTH DEP AND ARR ATIS; NO WIND SHEAR ALERTS WERE MENTIONED. IF WE HAD KNOWN THAT WIND SHEAR EXISTED ANYWHERE NEAR THE ARPT, WE WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE CONSIDERED RWY 01R FOR TKOF, AND REQUESTED 28 FORM THE BEGINNING. IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF WIND SHEAR IS KNOWN TO EXIST ANYWHERE NEAR THE ARPT THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE TOLD ABOUT IT AND NOT HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT BY ACCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.