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Light aircraft on vector from approach controller penetrates TCA while controller engages in an argument with another aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 121458 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iad |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 121458 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Completed ILS 1/DME approach at iad and touch and go landing. Local instructed us to turn right ot 120, maintain 2500, contact approach 125.8. On switching frequency, heard approach criticizing another pilot for lining up wrong runway. This started a tit-for-tat mild argument which tied up frequency. After argument ended, approach had about 10 clrncs backed up for incoming push which was beginning. We tried to check in repeatedly, but approach would not answer us. Finally, we broke in and approach instructed us to contact dca approach. Dca asked us if we knew that we were in the TCA and we responded that we were on a vector from iad. Dca said that iad forgot about us. Dca thanked us for our supervisor. She said relieving error had occurred: approach controller who had local to give us the departure instruction, had been relieved by the time we switched back to approach. New controller did not know about us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LIGHT ACFT ON VECTOR FROM APCH CTLR PENETRATES TCA WHILE CTLR ENGAGES IN AN ARGUMENT WITH ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: COMPLETED ILS 1/DME APCH AT IAD AND TOUCH AND GO LNDG. LOCAL INSTRUCTED US TO TURN RIGHT OT 120, MAINTAIN 2500, CONTACT APCH 125.8. ON SWITCHING FREQ, HEARD APCH CRITICIZING ANOTHER PLT FOR LINING UP WRONG RWY. THIS STARTED A TIT-FOR-TAT MILD ARGUMENT WHICH TIED UP FREQ. AFTER ARGUMENT ENDED, APCH HAD ABOUT 10 CLRNCS BACKED UP FOR INCOMING PUSH WHICH WAS BEGINNING. WE TRIED TO CHECK IN REPEATEDLY, BUT APCH WOULD NOT ANSWER US. FINALLY, WE BROKE IN AND APCH INSTRUCTED US TO CONTACT DCA APCH. DCA ASKED US IF WE KNEW THAT WE WERE IN THE TCA AND WE RESPONDED THAT WE WERE ON A VECTOR FROM IAD. DCA SAID THAT IAD FORGOT ABOUT US. DCA THANKED US FOR OUR SUPVR. SHE SAID RELIEVING ERROR HAD OCCURRED: APCH CTLR WHO HAD LOCAL TO GIVE US THE DEP INSTRUCTION, HAD BEEN RELIEVED BY THE TIME WE SWITCHED BACK TO APCH. NEW CTLR DID NOT KNOW ABOUT US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.