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Attributes | |
ACN | 1217475 |
Time | |
Date | 201411 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SFO.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
While putting the flight plan into the FMS; I received an unfamiliar dp [departure procedure] which did not appear with my selected runway. I then looked through my charts and noticed that I did not have the chart for the dp. I had received communications from the union about making sure our charts were up to date due to impending changes. I checked my file prior to beginning my trip and found only the winter ops guide. I did receive an email later around XA30 stating that a new revision was in our file (see attached). I contacted dispatch and told them we did not have current charts but that we could probably print off the changes if we had the electronic jeppesen login information. His initial reaction was to refile us for a dp we did have; but I expressed that we would not know if those were now current or not. I proceeded to sfo operations and printed off all of the changes for our day and checked the other airports to make sure there were no changes. Some had no changes; but all of the departures in sfo changed; and all of our charts for ZZZ (where we would go later) had changed including new procedures for all the instrument approaches. We left late due to the amount of time it took me to print off all of the charts. How can we be expected to have current charts when they arrive the day before they are effective?!? I have been told previously by the chief pilots office that we are covered legally for the late charts; but being legal isn't much help if you are flying into an airport where the instrument approach procedure you need to land has changed. At my previous base; our jepp revisions were almost always received 2 weeks before they were effective; so my recommendation would be to ship them to this base sooner. Or have jepp send them directly . We haul around the monthly magazine all the time (which is always seemingly inserted right at the start of the month); so I would think we could haul some navigation charts around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: During FMC programing an Air Carrier Captain discovers that the filed SID does not exist in the FMC; nor in his chart manual. The company is contacted and it is learned that the new procedures are effective this day but were not available in base the day prior.
Narrative: While putting the flight plan into the FMS; I received an unfamiliar DP [departure procedure] which did not appear with my selected runway. I then looked through my charts and noticed that I did not have the chart for the DP. I had received communications from the union about making sure our charts were up to date due to impending changes. I checked my file prior to beginning my trip and found only the winter ops guide. I did receive an email later around XA30 stating that a new revision was in our file (see attached). I contacted dispatch and told them we did not have current charts but that we could probably print off the changes if we had the electronic Jeppesen login information. His initial reaction was to refile us for a DP we did have; but I expressed that we would not know if those were now current or not. I proceeded to SFO operations and printed off all of the changes for our day and checked the other airports to make sure there were no changes. Some had no changes; but all of the departures in SFO changed; and all of our charts for ZZZ (where we would go later) had changed including new procedures for all the instrument approaches. We left late due to the amount of time it took me to print off all of the charts. How can we be expected to have current charts when they arrive the day before they are effective?!? I have been told previously by the chief pilots office that we are covered legally for the late charts; but being legal isn't much help if you are flying into an airport where the instrument approach procedure you need to land has changed. At my previous base; our Jepp revisions were almost always received 2 weeks before they were effective; so my recommendation would be to ship them to this base sooner. Or have Jepp send them directly . We haul around the monthly magazine all the time (which is always seemingly inserted right at the start of the month); so I would think we could haul some navigation charts around.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.