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Attributes | |
ACN | 122711 |
Time | |
Date | 198909 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : alo |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j233 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9400 flight time type : 7200 |
ASRS Report | 122711 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared msp rst alo J233 stl J45 bna. At alo, with reference to the us (hi) 7 chart, we departed on the alo 152 degree right. There is a solid blue jet arwy shown between alo and stl, however there is no # shown on it. We were discussing this and trying to determine if this was in fact J233 when center called to question our course. We explained our confusion and the controller pointed out that J233 was the alo 178 degree right outbnd, we made an immediate correction. Shortly thereafter the controller called back with a clearance direct to stl. I believe this navigation error could have been prevented if the direct jet route between alo and stl displayed a # on it. If that had been the case we would have known it was not J233 and would have easily found the correct course. I believe this situation presents a trap which should be eliminated by revising the us (hi) 7 chart.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG CLEARED VIA J233 AFTER WATERLOO, IA, BUT NO AIRWAY SHOWN ON CHART.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED MSP RST ALO J233 STL J45 BNA. AT ALO, WITH REF TO THE US (HI) 7 CHART, WE DEPARTED ON THE ALO 152 DEG R. THERE IS A SOLID BLUE JET ARWY SHOWN BTWN ALO AND STL, HOWEVER THERE IS NO # SHOWN ON IT. WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS AND TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THIS WAS IN FACT J233 WHEN CENTER CALLED TO QUESTION OUR COURSE. WE EXPLAINED OUR CONFUSION AND THE CTLR POINTED OUT THAT J233 WAS THE ALO 178 DEG R OUTBND, WE MADE AN IMMEDIATE CORRECTION. SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE CTLR CALLED BACK WITH A CLRNC DIRECT TO STL. I BELIEVE THIS NAV ERROR COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THE DIRECT JET ROUTE BTWN ALO AND STL DISPLAYED A # ON IT. IF THAT HAD BEEN THE CASE WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WAS NOT J233 AND WOULD HAVE EASILY FOUND THE CORRECT COURSE. I BELIEVE THIS SITUATION PRESENTS A TRAP WHICH SHOULD BE ELIMINATED BY REVISING THE US (HI) 7 CHART.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.