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Attributes | |
ACN | 1233429 |
Time | |
Date | 201501 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZJX.ARTCC |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Other Deviating |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 241 Flight Crew Total 7231 Flight Crew Type 3181 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
While proceeding southbound on AR24; approaching ohlaa intersection; there was a line of weather running southwest to northeast across the airway; for which we requested and received a clearance to deviate towards the east; and to proceed direct to ursus intersection afterwards. The controller reported to us; and other aircraft on the frequency; that around that area of weather there was reported moderate turbulence from FL320 all the way up to FL360 or FL380; I cannot recall but we were about to hit that area. Being downwind of the weather; with the wind at around 63 knots out of the southwest and the reported turbulence; we decided to take a wide deviation to try to be as clear as possible of any eddies and/or downwind turbulence we may encounter; on top of the already reported moderate turbulence. Throughout the deviation we experienced 3 pockets; of about 10 seconds each; of moderate turbulence; while experiencing continuous light turbulence; most of it was due to erratic wind speed and direction changes inside the reported area. While deviating; the controller became worried that we were leaving radar coverage; and asked us how far or how long before we could turn on course to ursus. I was still deviating; although we didn't have that much to go; and I told him that we had about another twenty miles before we could turn on course. He said that he was not painting any weather and I needed to turn to a heading of 220; I believe; to which I replied that we were unable to do so; that the most I could turn in about a minute would be a heading of 200 or 210; I cannot recall. He said he understood that I was using my PIC's emergency authority to not comply with an ATC instruction; to which I replied that that was affirmative. A minute later we were clear of the weather and we turned towards ursus; letting the controller know we were done deviating. It is worth mentioning that while we were deviating; we could see on our navigation display's TCAS information; that there were a number of airplanes inside the area of weather we were painting; and where the controller said he wasn't painting anything. Those same airplanes were reporting moderate turbulence; so strong; we could actually hear the voice of the pilot talking; jumping around and changing tone due to the jolts they were experiencing. There was no way I was going to turn the aircraft any sooner towards ursus. One; we were painting weather; and two; those guys to our right were getting an awful ride; while ours was manageable. I'll also like to add that the controller was very professional and courteous throughout the event; not just to us; but to all aircraft deviating.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 Captain reports using his Captain's emergency authority to avoid turbulence associated with a thunderstorm; beyond what the Controller would authorize due to Radar coverage.
Narrative: While proceeding southbound on AR24; approaching OHLAA intersection; there was a line of weather running southwest to northeast across the airway; for which we requested and received a clearance to deviate towards the East; and to proceed direct to URSUS intersection afterwards. The controller reported to us; and other aircraft on the frequency; that around that area of weather there was reported moderate turbulence from FL320 all the way up to FL360 or FL380; I cannot recall but we were about to hit that area. Being downwind of the weather; with the wind at around 63 knots out of the southwest and the reported turbulence; we decided to take a wide deviation to try to be as clear as possible of any eddies and/or downwind turbulence we may encounter; on top of the already reported moderate turbulence. Throughout the deviation we experienced 3 pockets; of about 10 seconds each; of moderate turbulence; while experiencing continuous light turbulence; most of it was due to erratic wind speed and direction changes inside the reported area. While deviating; the controller became worried that we were leaving radar coverage; and asked us how far or how long before we could turn on course to URSUS. I was still deviating; although we didn't have that much to go; and I told him that we had about another twenty miles before we could turn on course. He said that he was not painting any weather and I needed to turn to a heading of 220; I believe; to which I replied that we were unable to do so; that the most I could turn in about a minute would be a heading of 200 or 210; I cannot recall. He said he understood that I was using my PIC's emergency authority to not comply with an ATC instruction; to which I replied that that was affirmative. A minute later we were clear of the weather and we turned towards URSUS; letting the controller know we were done deviating. It is worth mentioning that while we were deviating; we could see on our Navigation Display's TCAS information; that there were a number of airplanes inside the area of weather we were painting; and where the controller said he wasn't painting anything. Those same airplanes were reporting moderate turbulence; so strong; we could actually hear the voice of the pilot talking; jumping around and changing tone due to the jolts they were experiencing. There was no way I was going to turn the aircraft any sooner towards URSUS. One; we were painting weather; and Two; those guys to our right were getting an awful ride; while ours was manageable. I'll also like to add that the controller was very professional and courteous throughout the event; not just to us; but to all aircraft deviating.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.