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Attributes | |
ACN | 1233455 |
Time | |
Date | 201501 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | E16.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 9 Flight Crew Total 860 Flight Crew Type 520 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 10 Flight Crew Total 94 Flight Crew Type 94 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 30 Vertical 30 |
Narrative:
I had filed IFR flight plan [but] in the air; I advised norcal that I was cancelling IFR and requested VFR flight following to south county airport (E16). Approximately 20 miles east of the airport; while I was at 6;500 feet altitude; norcal advised me that flight following was terminated and squawk 1200. I descended to 1300 feet (approximate tpa for E16) over the private golf course; which is a well-established landmark three miles north of the airport; known to most pilots at south county airport; as a landmark used to announce 45 degree entry for right downwind for E16 runway 32. At this point; I heard another pilot announce that he was 'downwind' runway 32 in a cessna airplane.realizing that another airplane was maneuvering in the pattern; I proceeded to clearly announce my position; numerous times; over the course of the next five minutes...at no time did I hear the pilot of the other airplane make any announcement; other than the initial report of downwind when I was still over the golf course. I did not observe the airplane on the ground. Since it had been so long since I heard from the other airplane; I assumed he had either landed or left the vicinity. I assumed that if I was announcing my position; and if the other pilot made no attempt to announce his position; then the other airplane must not be a factor.at this time; a third airplane; announced that he was north of the airport and entering a right 45 for runway 32. Less than .25 mile from the approach end of the runway; on my short final; 30 degrees flaps; I saw the wings of another high wing airplane appear beneath me. He was maybe 30 feet below me and traveling slightly faster than me; so he was maybe 30 feet in front of me when I saw him. He must have been directly underneath me before he finally overtook me and I was able to see him.I became extremely agitated and shouted over the radio 'there's another airplane; near collision; going around!' I applied full power; climbed; and veered right slightly so that I could see the other airplane in my sight. The third airplane; said over the radio 'what happened?' I was still agitated and said 'some idiot just pulled out in front of me.' the pilot of the airplane that nearly hit me remained silent. I engaged in a heated discussion with the other airplane in the pattern and warned him about a reckless pilot who was now taxiing on the ground. At this point -- finally -- the pilot of [the offending cessna] spoke up and said he was unaware of any near collision; and that he had 'announced' his position clearly. The other pilot [in the pattern] said 'I never heard you say anything; pal.' on the ground the pilot of [the offending cessna]; who was still on the taxiway; contacted me by radio; and asked to come over to speak with me. I said ok. As I was tying down my airplane; he came over; shook my hand; but insisted that he had communicated clearly; and that he never saw me. He also at one point told me he was 'doing touch and go's' and 'was the only plane in the pattern.' he then got back in his plane; and departed runway 32 heading north.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Reports from both pilots of an NMAC event at non-towered E16 provide classic narratives of the same event seen from different points of view...and cockpits.
Narrative: I had filed IFR flight plan [but] in the air; I advised NORCAL that I was cancelling IFR and requested VFR flight following to South County Airport (E16). Approximately 20 miles east of the airport; while I was at 6;500 feet altitude; NORCAL advised me that flight following was terminated and squawk 1200. I descended to 1300 feet (approximate TPA for E16) over the private golf course; which is a well-established landmark three miles north of the airport; known to most pilots at South County Airport; as a landmark used to announce 45 degree entry for right downwind for E16 Runway 32. At this point; I heard another pilot announce that he was 'downwind' runway 32 in a Cessna airplane.Realizing that another airplane was maneuvering in the pattern; I proceeded to clearly announce my position; numerous times; over the course of the next five minutes...At no time did I hear the pilot of the other airplane make any announcement; other than the initial report of downwind when I was still over the golf course. I did not observe the airplane on the ground. Since it had been so long since I heard from the other airplane; I assumed he had either landed or left the vicinity. I assumed that if I was announcing my position; and if the other pilot made no attempt to announce his position; then the other airplane must not be a factor.At this time; a third airplane; announced that he was north of the airport and entering a right 45 for runway 32. Less than .25 mile from the approach end of the runway; on my short final; 30 degrees flaps; I saw the wings of another high wing airplane appear beneath me. He was maybe 30 feet below me and traveling slightly faster than me; so he was maybe 30 feet in front of me when I saw him. He must have been directly underneath me before he finally overtook me and I was able to see him.I became extremely agitated and shouted over the radio 'There's another airplane; near collision; going around!' I applied full power; climbed; and veered right slightly so that I could see the other airplane in my sight. The third airplane; said over the radio 'what happened?' I was still agitated and said 'some idiot just pulled out in front of me.' The pilot of the airplane that nearly hit me remained silent. I engaged in a heated discussion with the other airplane in the pattern and warned him about a reckless pilot who was now taxiing on the ground. At this point -- finally -- the pilot of [the offending Cessna] spoke up and said he was unaware of any near collision; and that he had 'announced' his position clearly. The other pilot [in the pattern] said 'I never heard you say anything; pal.' On the ground the pilot of [the offending Cessna]; who was still on the taxiway; contacted me by radio; and asked to come over to speak with me. I said OK. As I was tying down my airplane; he came over; shook my hand; but insisted that he had communicated clearly; and that he never saw me. He also at one point told me he was 'doing touch and go's' and 'was the only plane in the pattern.' He then got back in his plane; and departed runway 32 heading north.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.