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Attributes | |
ACN | 1238522 |
Time | |
Date | 201502 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach STAR GRNDPA1 |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 23000 Flight Crew Type 7000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 91 Flight Crew Type 2009 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Descending on the GRNPA1 into las. We're given direct trrop; descend and maintain 7;000 feet. We were expecting the ILS 25L per the ATIS; and this wasn't making sense until approach told us to expect the RNAV visual runway 19R. Looked in the runway 19 section; found the RNAV (GPS) runway 19R; that must be it. Didn't see any visual approaches below the normal approaches where they usually are. The GRNDPA1 says to expect vectors to final approach course. Last assigned altitude was 7;000 feet. We were trying to figure out how to connect the GRNDPA1 with the RNAV visual runway 19. Approach control started yelling at us about crossing trrop at 6;000. This was not making sense. Approach turned us in way too high to get down; and we told them it wasn't going to work. They sent us around with the comment that if we can't fly the approach we should tell them. Got vectored downwind and landed runway 25L; still confused as to what happened. After parking we were wondering if there was an approach that we didn't have; or something. On the van ride we were looking over the jeppesen FD-pro; and found an RNAV visual rwys 19L/right above the approaches for runway 1L/right. I had never seen them sequenced above the precision approaches before; and in the heat of battle neither of us found it in the FMC. Tomorrow when we depart I will check the FMC to see if it is indeed somewhere in the selectable approaches.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 flight crew experiences confusion when cleared for the RNAV Visual RWY 19R at LAS off the GRNPA1 arrival. The crew assumes the Controller means the RNAV (GPS) RWY 19R; which is not correct and results in an upset Controller and a go-around.
Narrative: Descending on the GRNPA1 into LAS. We're given Direct TRROP; descend and maintain 7;000 feet. We were expecting the ILS 25L per the ATIS; and this wasn't making sense until Approach told us to expect the RNAV Visual RWY 19R. Looked in the Runway 19 section; found the RNAV (GPS) RWY 19R; that must be it. Didn't see any Visual approaches below the normal approaches where they usually are. The GRNDPA1 says to expect vectors to final approach course. Last assigned altitude was 7;000 feet. We were trying to figure out how to connect the GRNDPA1 with the RNAV Visual RWY 19. Approach control started yelling at us about crossing TRROP at 6;000. This was not making sense. Approach turned us in way too high to get down; and we told them it wasn't going to work. They sent us around with the comment that if we can't fly the approach we should tell them. Got vectored downwind and landed RWY 25L; still confused as to what happened. After parking we were wondering if there was an approach that we didn't have; or something. On the van ride we were looking over the Jeppesen FD-Pro; and found an RNAV Visual RWYs 19L/R ABOVE the approaches for RWY 1L/R. I had never seen them sequenced above the Precision approaches before; and in the heat of battle neither of us found it in the FMC. Tomorrow when we depart I will check the FMC to see if it is indeed somewhere in the selectable approaches.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.