Flight crew of air carrier light transport allege they were scheduled illegally on flight time and p...

Attributes
ACN	124443
Time
Date	198910
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mem
State Reference	TN
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff cruise other landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 1630 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	124443
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	other Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Company made a change in schedule on second day of a 2-DAY trip. Changed added an extra stop en route. Crew had received 8 hours reduced rest that night. Crew was originally scheduled for 8.5 hours flight time in a 24 hour period on reduced rest of 8 hours. When we returned to operations, the first officer questioned legality of remainder of trip. Dispatcher got angry, insisted that trip was legal to be flown and insisted we complete trip. En route it was discovered that trip was definitely illegal. Captain advised operations that we would not be stopping at one of our scheduled cities due to legality problem. Upon arrival at out station the captain called operations. Dispatcher again insisted that we finish trip or face disciplinary action. Crew flew directly back to hub and was 'written up' for not completing trip. Crew ended up being scheduled for 9.4 hours on reduced rest of 8 hours. Crew actually flew 8.9 hours, due to clear skies and no traffic delays. Obviously, the FAA needs to crack down on companies assigning trips that are not legal, and crews need to be real careful to check all trip carefully, regardless of what the company tells them.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF ACR LTT ALLEGE THEY WERE SCHEDULED ILLEGALLY ON FLT TIME AND PASSED UP A SCHEDULED STOP DESPITE DISPATCHER EXHORTATION TO FLY OR BE DISCIPLINED.

Narrative: COMPANY MADE A CHANGE IN SCHEDULE ON SECOND DAY OF A 2-DAY TRIP. CHANGED ADDED AN EXTRA STOP ENRTE. CREW HAD RECEIVED 8 HRS REDUCED REST THAT NIGHT. CREW WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR 8.5 HRS FLT TIME IN A 24 HR PERIOD ON REDUCED REST OF 8 HRS. WHEN WE RETURNED TO OPERATIONS, THE F/O QUESTIONED LEGALITY OF REMAINDER OF TRIP. DISPATCHER GOT ANGRY, INSISTED THAT TRIP WAS LEGAL TO BE FLOWN AND INSISTED WE COMPLETE TRIP. ENRTE IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT TRIP WAS DEFINITELY ILLEGAL. CAPT ADVISED OPERATIONS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE STOPPING AT ONE OF OUR SCHEDULED CITIES DUE TO LEGALITY PROBLEM. UPON ARR AT OUT STATION THE CAPT CALLED OPERATIONS. DISPATCHER AGAIN INSISTED THAT WE FINISH TRIP OR FACE DISCIPLINARY ACTION. CREW FLEW DIRECTLY BACK TO HUB AND WAS 'WRITTEN UP' FOR NOT COMPLETING TRIP. CREW ENDED UP BEING SCHEDULED FOR 9.4 HRS ON REDUCED REST OF 8 HRS. CREW ACTUALLY FLEW 8.9 HRS, DUE TO CLEAR SKIES AND NO TFC DELAYS. OBVIOUSLY, THE FAA NEEDS TO CRACK DOWN ON COMPANIES ASSIGNING TRIPS THAT ARE NOT LEGAL, AND CREWS NEED TO BE REAL CAREFUL TO CHECK ALL TRIP CAREFULLY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COMPANY TELLS THEM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of air carrier light transport allege they were scheduled illegally on flight time and passed up a scheduled stop despite dispatcher exhortation to fly or be disciplined.