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Attributes | |
ACN | 1247464 |
Time | |
Date | 201503 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DFW.Airport |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID HUDAD1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Received the clearance to fly the HUDAD1 RNAV departure in dfw via pre departure clearance. On the pre departure clearance clearance the altitude clearance was 'climb via SID' with no altitude listed. I consulted the departure using my lido charts. On the depiction the chart said for initial altitude see inset. I looked at the inset and saw an altitude of 5000 feet listed for yamel. I thought this was the initial assigned altitude so I set it in the altitude preselect. I briefed the clearance with the captain before pushback and the error was not detected. We taxied out to runway 17R and were cleared for takeoff. As we climbed we were told to contact departure. The captain checked in with departure and we continued to climb to 5000 feet. We began to level off at 5000 and remained there for a few seconds when departure queried as to what our assigned altitude was. The captain told him 5000. He told us to check the departure and that it was in fact 10000. He told us to continue the climb to 10;000; which we did. The captain apologized and the controller said 'no problem'. It didn't seem to be an issue with the controller since there was no traffic in the immediate vicinity. The lido chart format has very important information scattered. While it may seem trivial; having a visual depiction and a textual description on 2 separate pages is not user friendly. We cannot compare the two side by side. The visual depiction of the departure and the assigned altitude was also misleading. It has been very difficult to transition to the information depiction on lido charts; especially when going into unfamiliar airports. The only two ways this can be solved is getting comfortable with the charts; which may or may not happen and may result in other transgressions before one is comfortable. The other way is to use charts with better depictions of the important information; such as jeppesen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB 175 FO reported difficulty interpreting the LIDO charts used for a DFW departure.
Narrative: Received the clearance to fly the HUDAD1 RNAV Departure in DFW via PDC. On the PDC clearance the Altitude clearance was 'climb via SID' with no altitude listed. I consulted the departure using my LIDO charts. On the depiction the chart said for initial altitude see inset. I looked at the inset and saw an altitude of 5000 feet listed for YAMEL. I thought this was the initial assigned altitude so I set it in the altitude preselect. I briefed the clearance with the captain before pushback and the error was not detected. We taxied out to runway 17R and were cleared for takeoff. As we climbed we were told to contact departure. The captain checked in with departure and we continued to climb to 5000 feet. We began to level off at 5000 and remained there for a few seconds when departure queried as to what our assigned altitude was. The captain told him 5000. He told us to check the departure and that it was in fact 10000. He told us to continue the climb to 10;000; which we did. The captain apologized and the controller said 'no problem'. It didn't seem to be an issue with the controller since there was no traffic in the immediate vicinity. The LIDO chart format has very important information scattered. While it may seem trivial; having a visual depiction and a textual description on 2 separate pages is not user friendly. We cannot compare the two side by side. The visual depiction of the departure and the assigned altitude was also misleading. It has been very difficult to transition to the information depiction on LIDO charts; especially when going into unfamiliar airports. The only two ways this can be solved is getting comfortable with the charts; which may or may not happen and may result in other transgressions before one is comfortable. The other way is to use charts with better depictions of the important information; such as Jeppesen.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.