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A B737-800 flight crew reported they were uncomfortable with ATC spacing on approach to lax and felt they had no viable go-around option.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1247788 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201503 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe |
Narrative:
Instructed by approach to maintain 170 knots to fogla and contact tower. Called tower at folga and received clearance to land and advised one aircraft in position. First officer (first officer) flying aircraft. Normal approach and stabilized and on speed at 1000 feet. At approximately 500 feet we observed one aircraft on takeoff roll and another aircraft lining up in position. The aircraft lining up was cleared to takeoff just as aircraft on the roll was lifting off. At this time we realized that it was going to be very close between our landing and aircraft taking off. We considered a go around but decided that with one aircraft lifting off and one aircraft rolling our safest action would be to land. Had we executed a go around we thought we would have a direct conflict with the aircraft on the roll. We ended up landing just as the proceeding aircraft lifted off. In my opinion; this is an unsafe practice. We are concerned that our option to maneuver safely was limited by the reduced interval.because of the closure of 25L at lax we are landing and departing 25R. It is imperative that safe separation is maintained.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-800 flight crew reported they were uncomfortable with ATC spacing on approach to LAX and felt they had no viable go-around option.
Narrative: Instructed by approach to maintain 170 knots to FOGLA and contact tower. Called tower at FOLGA and received clearance to land and advised one aircraft in position. First Officer (FO) flying aircraft. Normal approach and stabilized and on speed at 1000 feet. At approximately 500 feet we observed one aircraft on takeoff roll and another aircraft lining up in position. The aircraft lining up was cleared to takeoff just as aircraft on the roll was lifting off. At this time we realized that it was going to be very close between our landing and aircraft taking off. We considered a go around but decided that with one aircraft lifting off and one aircraft rolling our safest action would be to land. Had we executed a go around we thought we would have a direct conflict with the aircraft on the roll. We ended up landing just as the proceeding aircraft lifted off. In my opinion; this is an unsafe practice. We are concerned that our option to maneuver safely was limited by the reduced interval.Because of the closure of 25L at LAX we are landing and departing 25R. It is imperative that safe separation is maintained.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.