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Attributes | |
ACN | 1250213 |
Time | |
Date | 201503 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors STAR SEAVU TWO |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
I am relatively new to this aircraft with about 350 hours in type. Additionally; the first officer (first officer) had about 150 hours in type. After flying the SEAVU2 arrival with significant delay vectors and speed control; both fast and slow; from tnp all the way in to final approach; we were given 3 different runway assignments (25R; 24R; then 24L). On third assignment; after being cleared visual approach to 24L; we were then told maintain 250 kts. Due to significant wake turbulence from preceding aircraft; we told the controller we were unable to maintain 250 kts. The situation at this point was that we were in night VMC; passing through about 4;000 feet; trying to reprogram the FMS; maintaining visual separation from aircraft we were to follow; aligning with the new runway and ensuring we did not impinge on the south side flow to 25R. The controller expressed displeasure at our inability to maintain 250 kts. Further coordination resulted in a speed of 230 kts but frequency congestion prevented better communication of the situation. Additionally; the workload was too high to continue into the final approach fix at 250 kts. While I sincerely appreciate the job the socal controllers do in getting us in to lax; I have a reasonable expectation to be in a position to make a stabilized approach. That expectation would not have been met if we complied with the controller's request. Either we are all working to achieve stabilized approaches or we will continue to have pilot/controller difficulties.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 Captain reported difficulty complying with ATC speed request because of workload which was heightened by multiple runway changes and wake turbulence from preceding aircraft.
Narrative: I am relatively new to this aircraft with about 350 hours in type. Additionally; the First Officer (FO) had about 150 hours in type. After flying the SEAVU2 Arrival with significant delay vectors and speed control; both fast and slow; from TNP all the way in to final approach; we were given 3 different runway assignments (25R; 24R; then 24L). On third assignment; after being cleared visual approach to 24L; we were then told maintain 250 kts. Due to significant wake turbulence from preceding aircraft; we told the controller we were unable to maintain 250 kts. The situation at this point was that we were in night VMC; passing through about 4;000 feet; trying to reprogram the FMS; maintaining visual separation from aircraft we were to follow; aligning with the new runway and ensuring we did not impinge on the south side flow to 25R. The controller expressed displeasure at our inability to maintain 250 kts. Further coordination resulted in a speed of 230 kts but frequency congestion prevented better communication of the situation. Additionally; the workload was too high to continue into the final approach fix at 250 kts. While I sincerely appreciate the job the SOCAL controllers do in getting us in to LAX; I have a reasonable expectation to be in a position to make a stabilized approach. That expectation would not have been met if we complied with the controller's request. Either we are all working to achieve stabilized approaches or we will continue to have pilot/controller difficulties.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.