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Attributes | |
ACN | 1253719 |
Time | |
Date | 201504 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Trailing Edge Flap |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 210 Flight Crew Total 21345 Flight Crew Type 13594 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
Descending on an RNAV arrival we were vectored off the arrival given a 310 heading. Visibility was approximately 20 miles. The controller pointed out traffic to follow which we had seen the whole time approximately 7 miles ahead on final to [runway xy]. First officer called traffic in sight and we were given a 270 heading to join final and cleared for the visual to [runway xy]. We were also told to maintain 180 knots until 5 miles out. The first officer extended the final approach course from FAF. The approach checklist was already completed. Looking at my map I noticed we were going to intercept the final approach well inside the FAF. I called for the first officer to set 1500 on the MCP (1700 was the FAF altitude). I clicked the autopilot off and armed the approach mode. I also had level change and heading select at 270 set on the MCP. The GS was unreliable at the angle we were approaching and the VASI was not visible yet also. I had been at flaps 1 and 210 as assigned earlier and called for flaps 5 and called to set 190 on the MCP. I was doing some mental calculations of a 3 to 1 descent path. At approximately 8 miles I called gear down; flaps 15; set 180. I noticed as I was approaching final the airspeed was at 180 and the VASI appeared and was showing red over white; on path. I called set 160 (Vm15 on the airspeed bug was 155). I then called for flaps 30. At approximately 1200 AGL the first officer said the flaps were indicating 25 and I checked the handle and they were at 25. I told him did he set 30 and he said yes; but they stayed at 25 so he returned the handle to 25. I told him he probably set 30 degrees over the flap placard speed of 175 KIAS. To be honest; I very likely called for flaps 30 at 180 KIAS thinking I was already under 175 KIAS. I waited to slow to about 160 KIAS and called for him to set 30. The flaps did not move; and they stayed at 25. We were now at about 600 AGL. After considering the clear weather; dry runway; and the 8800 feet of available runway on [runway xy] I decided to continue the approach and landing after concurrence from my first officer. Vref30 was recalculated at 146 with a target speed of 152. The calculated stopping distance at flaps 30; auto brakes 3 was approximately 6600 at our weight of approximately 140;000 lbs. I decided to stay at my current speed of 162 KIAS and landed uneventfully. We turned off the runway at the planned taxiway echo. Once at the gate I had a thorough debrief with my first officer and I wrote up the mechanical in the aircraft maintenance logbook.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: On final a B737-800 crew realized the trailing edge flaps were apparently not extending below 25; so they increased approach speed and landed without incident.
Narrative: Descending on an RNAV arrival we were vectored off the arrival given a 310 heading. Visibility was approximately 20 miles. The controller pointed out traffic to follow which we had seen the whole time approximately 7 miles ahead on final to [Runway XY]. FO called traffic in sight and we were given a 270 heading to join final and cleared for the visual to [Runway XY]. We were also told to maintain 180 knots until 5 miles out. The FO extended the final approach course from FAF. The approach checklist was already completed. Looking at my map I noticed we were going to intercept the final approach well inside the FAF. I called for the FO to set 1500 on the MCP (1700 was the FAF altitude). I clicked the autopilot off and armed the approach mode. I also had level change and heading select at 270 set on the MCP. The GS was unreliable at the angle we were approaching and the VASI was not visible yet also. I had been at flaps 1 and 210 as assigned earlier and called for flaps 5 and called to set 190 on the MCP. I was doing some mental calculations of a 3 to 1 descent path. At approximately 8 miles I called gear down; flaps 15; set 180. I noticed as I was approaching final the airspeed was at 180 and the VASI appeared and was showing red over white; on path. I called set 160 (Vm15 on the airspeed bug was 155). I then called for flaps 30. At approximately 1200 AGL the FO said the flaps were indicating 25 and I checked the handle and they were at 25. I told him did he set 30 and he said yes; but they stayed at 25 so he returned the handle to 25. I told him he probably set 30 degrees over the flap placard speed of 175 KIAS. To be honest; I very likely called for flaps 30 at 180 KIAS thinking I was already under 175 KIAS. I waited to slow to about 160 KIAS and called for him to set 30. The flaps did not move; and they stayed at 25. We were now at about 600 AGL. After considering the clear weather; dry runway; and the 8800 feet of available runway on [Runway XY] I decided to continue the approach and landing after concurrence from my FO. Vref30 was recalculated at 146 with a target speed of 152. The calculated stopping distance at flaps 30; auto brakes 3 was approximately 6600 at our weight of approximately 140;000 lbs. I decided to stay at my current speed of 162 KIAS and landed uneventfully. We turned off the runway at the planned taxiway Echo. Once at the gate I had a thorough debrief with my FO and I wrote up the mechanical in the aircraft maintenance logbook.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.