Narrative:

D10 controller called and said 'quit deleting the speeds; these aircraft are not making their crossing restrictions.'I answered with 'they are all assigned the STAR altitudes and speeds.' I later realized that the controller at D10 was saying that I had failed to make the pilots comply with the restrictions. In the center environment:1) the controller issues the restriction.2) the pilot reads back the restriction correctly.3) the pilot is expected to comply with the restriction. If the pilot cannot comply with the restriction he/she is to tell the controller that they cannot comply and the controller will come up with a new plan or restriction that will work.we were recently assigned to watch an elms [electronic learning management system] instruction course about departure routings. In the course it said that the controller was responsible for the pilots' actions even when the controller issued the correct restriction and the pilot read the restriction back correctly. Hold the pilots responsible for their actions. We cannot have two sets of rules. Currently in the center environment the pilot is responsible for complying with the restrictions they are given. According to this elms course: in a TRACON or tower environment the controllers is responsible for the pilots' actions even when the controller does everything correctly.if I am wrong about the rules please tell me and all center controllers as soon as possible. The pilots have to be responsible for their actions. Controllers cannot be held responsible for the mistakes of pilots. That is just insane.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ZFW Controller describes situations where D10 controllers complain about aircraft not making crossing restrictions; because the ZFW Controller is issuing different speed to the aircraft than what are on the STARS. The ZFW Controller thinks it is up to the pilot to tell him that can't do the speed and make the restriction.

Narrative: D10 controller called and said 'Quit deleting the speeds; these aircraft are not making their crossing restrictions.'I answered with 'They are all assigned the STAR altitudes and speeds.' I later realized that the controller at D10 was saying that I had failed to make the pilots comply with the restrictions. In the Center environment:1) The controller issues the restriction.2) The pilot reads back the restriction correctly.3) The pilot is expected to comply with the restriction. If the pilot cannot comply with the restriction he/she is to tell the controller that they cannot comply and the controller will come up with a new plan or restriction that will work.We were recently assigned to watch an eLMS [electronic Learning Management System] instruction course about departure routings. In the course it said that the controller was responsible for the pilots' actions even when the controller issued the correct restriction and the pilot read the restriction back correctly. Hold the pilots responsible for their actions. We cannot have two sets of rules. Currently in the center environment the pilot is responsible for complying with the restrictions they are given. According to this eLMS course: In a TRACON or tower environment the controllers is responsible for the pilots' actions even when the controller does everything correctly.If I am wrong about the rules please tell me and all center controllers as soon as possible. The pilots have to be responsible for their actions. Controllers cannot be held responsible for the mistakes of pilots. That is just insane.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.